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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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MS Now Anchor Lawrence O'Donnell was formerly the Chief of Staff on the Senate Finance Committee.

He came out publicly and said that the establishment Democrats had zero incentive to concede anything substantive to progressives because they could always say that the GOP was worse and count on them to support the lesser evil.

The only way to break the Republican hold (effectively people like Obama, Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, etc) on the Democratic Party is to have them lose repeatedly and have a new generation come in and replace them.

Electing someone like Buttigieg or Newsom is just going to be a repeat of neoliberal Obama policy and a continuation of wealth concentration.


by geezerchess

I explained all this in earlier posts.

oh to be clear, I wasn't really asking for the explanation of why, I was trying to find out if you came to your senses about how wrong that was.


Obama is a shitlib.


by Nut Nut

Bernie was naive and hopeful. He ended up supporting an administration that greenlighted a genocide.

Well then i take back that he never did anything.


by Nut Nut

The only way to break the Republican hold (effectively people like Obama, Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, etc) on the Democratic Party is to have them lose repeatedly and have a new generation come in and replace them.

Just to verify, your mainstream progressive electoral strategy is to concede all elections to republicans for twenty years?


by Nut Nut

I haven't read the books, so my references are from GOT.

No wonder he can't finish writing a book. This mf won't even read one about a TV show he's obsessed with.


by Nut Nut

Bernie is not a shitlib and neither am I. Bernie was just bullied into submission as a result of family Holocaust trauma. He saw Trump as the greater evil and believed that he had some leverage with the Biden Administration. Bernie was naive and hopeful. He ended up supporting an administration that greenlighted a genocide. His credibility was destroyed. He got nothing for supp

I didnt say you were a shitlib.

I said Bernie is. he served the Dem party for decades and worked closely with the genocidal Biden administration. his entire role is to sheepdog people back into the Party.

but worse than being a shitlib is that he is a genocidal Jewish Supremacist. dont blame bullshit "Holocaust trauma" for the important work he did to support the most witnessed and documented mass killing in history.

and we can add the other people you mention to the guilty, AOC especially. she straight up lied about the whole "working hard for a ceasefire."

now the same Dem progressive ghouls are propping up people who fake oppose Israel like Mamdani who cries about antisemitism every other tweet and supports Zionist like Brad Lander and Tisch.


by biggerboat

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What's the flag at the front? Seems to have the EU flag in there


by amplify

Just to verify, your mainstream progressive electoral strategy is to concede all elections to republicans for twenty years?

Considering that Obama admitted he was a Republican and he's the kingmaker in the Democratic Party, that's the only option.

The Democratic Party was taken over by Republicans in the 80's. Just because they have a "D" label doesn't make them opposition to the GOP.

We probably need a crash equivalent to the Great Depression to make way for a progressive like FDR. I'd just as soon that someone with an "R" next to their name be at the helm when the crash happens.


Bill Clinton got things done that the GOP dreamed about.

The Telecommunications Act. Repeal of Glass-Steagall. NAFTA. Crime Bill.

Obama & Hillary tried their best with the TPP.

Who needs Republicans when you have leaders with a D next to their name doing the same things ?


The American people choosing Trump was their, "Give us Barabbas!!!" moment.


It's not my fault that the Dems nominated a corpse and pivoted to an alternative whose primary political achievement was shacking up with a charismatic politician and leveraging that to connections with wealthy donors and party insiders.


by Nut Nut

Who needs Republicans when you have leaders with a D next to their name doing the same things ?

Like Biden who invented the idea that black Americans were “super predators” requiring policing and prison expansion to manage.


by amplify

Like Biden who invented the idea that black Americans were “super predators” requiring policing and prison expansion to manage.

Exactly.

He's as responsible for excessive incarceration as anyone.

And black people in S. Carolina just took the guidance of Clyburn and Obama and voted for him anyway. No love lost for Jews in the black deep south. That was a big chink in Bernie's political armor.


by amplify

Just to verify, your mainstream progressive electoral strategy is to concede all elections to republicans for twenty years?

That's exactly what these droolers that criticize voting for the "least worse" candidate think. It's baffling. The overton window would be on the moon at that point. The supreme court and judicial system would be completely overrun with fascists, too. I can't deal with stupidity on the level of these people.


Absolute drivel

Is that' your justification for voting for making things worse? And still losng a lot of the time - even to times of trump


its amazing for him to say that right now, as the Progressive Wing of the Dem party's chosen boy is getting canceled for raping a white liberal women. note that they were fine with him raping and murdering people all over Afghanistan and Iraq during 4 tours and a mercenary gig.


by Gorgonian

That's exactly what these droolers that criticize voting for the "least worse" candidate think. It's baffling. The overton window would be on the moon at that point. The supreme court and judicial system would be completely overrun with fascists, too. I can't deal with stupidity on the level of these people.

There isn't a "least worse" option when both party establishments have policies that are leading to the collapse of civilization.

We're swirling the drain and no one has the balls to tell the public the truth. A small handful of people are controlling what is communicated to the public and keeping them in the dark about the things the NSA is obsessing over. Trump is the perfect distraction .... he sucks up attention better than anyone on the planet and keeps the common folks focused on each other as the enemy.

Meanwhile .... the elites are investing in survival bunkers and space stations for when the s*** hits the fan.

Thank God for a few governments like the Dutch who are funding the breaking research into AMOC collapse and providing the supercomputers for ocean modeling.


by Victor

its amazing for him to say that right now, as the Progressive Wing of the Dem party's chosen boy is getting canceled for raping a white liberal women. note that they were fine with him raping and murdering people all over Afghanistan and Iraq during 4 tours and a mercenary gig.

Isn't it wonderful how all of this stuff comes up at the perfect time (after the dem nomination) to ensure that the status quo Collins gets to keep her seat ?

Why does this raped woman wait until this perfect point in the election cycle to ensure that the establishment representative and her team of big money handlers gets the best chance to keep that seat ?

The Dems know that they can't win with establishment policies so they stack the field wih fauxgressives like Fetterman and Sinema. It's bait and switch.


George Carlin had it pegged.

It's a club and you (the common people) ain't in it.


by Nut Nut

There isn't a "least worse" option

Hey remember when you gave me permission to call you stupid all I want?

I do.

You're stupid. And so is anyone that doesn't understand how important it was to keep Trump out of office. Just unimaginably stupid.


There's definitely a good argument to be had against least-worsting.

But, proponing GOP led accelerationism is a dumb and extremely privileged take.

by Nut Nut

George Carlin had it pegged.

It's a club and you (the common people) ain't in it.

Again, this is something that is very true but silly to point out as a sage discovery. You're preaching to the choir.


by whatthejish

There's definitely a good argument against least-worsting.

But, proponing GOP led accelerationism is a dumb and extremely privileged take.

I agree with that. Linking the two was scraping the bottom of the justification bucket


by whatthejish

There's definitely a good argument to be had against least-worsting.

But, proponing GOP led accelerationism is a dumb and extremely privileged take.

Again, this is something that is very true but silly to point out as a sage discovery. You're preaching to the choir.

apparently the good argument against "least-worsting" does not involve a mass murdering mercenary rapist with a Nazi tattoo.


by whatthejish

But, proponing GOP led accelerationism is a dumb and extremely privileged take.

If things have to break .... is it better to prolong the reckoning or get it over with sooner ?

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