The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

Waddyboy, you have done this many times and its been said to you many times.

Nobody here is saying that online gambling companies are saints, they are saying that the RNG is fair. These are two seperate things. For instance, if you get caught stealing you dont get indicted for murder on the basis of "well, he broke one rule, so surely he is breaking all the others too, even though we have zero evidence for it"

You provide evidence for them breaking "social responsibility failures" like it proves something about the RNG, it doesnt

In fact, all you show is that auditors are indeed checking upon gambling sites (something that is frequently denied by riggies) otherwise there would be fines every month 😉

So how come we have seen these types of fines countless times but never, and i mean absolutely never, a case of a rigged RNG?

Its because it never happened

But sure, keep on thinking you are all the 1 in 10.000 or 1 in 10.000.000 (for those who lost on 2 sites) "unlucky chosen ones" with a tweaked profile that somehow alters the entire poker ecology so that winners win less.
Guys, there are enough big winners out there but that be true... The only reason you are not part of them is that you are not good enough. And instead of finding leaks in your own game you blame the sites for your lack of results. Grow up😀

And btw, those scammy rule-breaking sites must really be happy with someone like you, a 25 year+ long loyal customer
Yea you really showed them whos boss by gambling on their crooked site for 25+ years

Intelligent stuff!

😃

Nobody cares about the feelz of an old, worthless psycho who doesn't even play poker. The sites are making more money per day than you could make in the next 10 years. You are unimportant garbage, Juicetard.

Slugant spends his whole day defending rigged online sites that have already been caught cheating and allowing super users multiple times, all the while claiming he doesnt even really play poker LMAO..... he will get bad karma for this

Shame on you Slugant shameeee you little rat haha, GL with your karma

Nobody cares about your feelings, Juicetard. Remember, you're unimportant human garbage. Lots of people are making tons of money with poker while you couldn't beat micros. Does that make you angry?

Guess who's not making tons of money. The shilltards posting on an Internet forum 🤣 🤣

What are you on about, I've always said I play poker. I play poker every day and do very well at it. I challenged all you riggies to a HU match and you all decline because you are pussies.

My karma is doing well I guess because the only reason I win at poker is because I have a favorable RNG and you dont right? And not just on one site but on all them, imagine that.
Meanwhile you are ALL somehow the 0,01% tweaked profile rigged to lose... Also not just on one site but on several. Can you imagine all of you striking a 1 in 10.000 chance on every poker site you play. What are the odds right?? 😃😃

And yes sites have been caught doing whatever and I dont defend those actions, certainly not. I have been very critical of GG and Coin lately.
But they have never been caught with a rigged RNG and all your baseless fairy tales wont change that.

TheoryJuicer comfirmed in the Epstein Files
In fact, he was Jeffrey's secret best friend recruiting all the underage girls for him
What a despicable piece of trash he is

What? No, I dont have any evidence of this, of course not. But he cant disprove it and therefore it is true. That whole "trust me bro I am not in the Epstein Files" doesnt work with me.

- TheoryJuicer "Logic"

You. As I just explained to you.

I thought my only incentive for "shilling" was that all the online casino's were paying me?

Its like you feed on contradicting yourself :p

Inb4 'They don't pay you much so you're not making tons of money!'

Even if they dont pay me much, im defending every casino that has an RNG certification
There are quite a few of them around :p
Even if they gave me a dollar each this single post already made me 5k... whoooosh

The shilltards might grind out the price of a McDonalds in rakeback this month. Living the dream 🤣 🤣

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Thousands of tournaments in the mid-stakes with max blinds of 8k, and there's a difference of millions of chips in EVand the variance just doesn't even out. You can clearly see the green and yellow lines smoothly drifting apart. And I'm telling you, this isn't even the whole hand history. There are probably another million hands. One day, I even wrote down on paper how many all-ins I lost; even when they weren't flips and I was a total favorite, I lost 53 and won only 5. Which, to me, is not normal. And I know why they are screwing with me like this it's simply because I know what the truth is and I speak it. That casinos are scammers. We all know that slots are rigged, okay, no problem. People play against the house there. But when it comes to a game against other people, where you waste energy studying and spending your time? No, man, that is a serious scam. And something needs to be done about it

I guess this is why Juicetard and Percy are so angry at you, making money with shilling and poker is too much for their small brains.

Juicetard has to work 3 shifts, Saturdays too, just to barely afford rent and food. What a shitty life that must be...

See he didnt deny that he is in the Epstein Files nor that he was his best friend.
So its now officially true!

LOLOL, so you have a sample of almost 1,2 million hands but you decide to only show 167k for what reason?
Instead of "telling you" you should try "showing you"

Which is weird considering you have a tracker to import those hands in
You know what happened to me...
I played a billion hands last month and everything went so completely fair it totally proves the RNG is fair
"Im telling you" I played a billion hands that totally fit my narrative!
The thing is though, I wrote all the info down on paper instead of importing the hand histories for the world to see...
Dont you just hate it when that happens 🙂

I'm trying to believe you, but can you post, say, just a million screenshots of your notes to back up your claim? It seems to go against some of this thread's regs' claims. Thx.

Wait, this sounds like a catch 22.

They are screwing you because you "talk the truth" about the rigging pokersites...

First off. How do the pokersites know your username on 2+2?

Secondly. At which point did they start screwing you over? Because certainly you werent talking about a rigged RNG before you started playing? And therefore when you started playing you had a fair RNG because you werent talking about a rigged RNG... So you had nothing to complain about... but you did anyway... and that led to you being screwed over. But you couldnt have been screwed over before you talked about a rigged rng, because the only reason they are screwing you over is because you know and talk the truth...
This must make insane amounts of sense in your head.

But also, you've posted before that 0,01% of profiles are being tweaked.
So do 1 in 10.000 players know and talk the truth and therefore are targeted by the evil RNG?
And how come its always microstakes player who "know the truth"?
And if they only screw over people who know and talk the truth, how does that balance the ecosystem (also something you posted before)?

It all is so damn contradictory and baseless

Its also quite megalomaniac to think a pokersite is so preoccupied with your online ramblings that they decide to rig the deck against you personally

It honestly sounds like you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.
"Nasa is keeping an eye on me because I know the truth about the moonlanding"
"You think thats something, pokersites are rigging my RNG because I go on an online forum and cry about bad beats"

I tell you what it proves.

It proves that despite there being rules about what they can and what they cant do, the one area that they are indeed being scrutinised, they are constantly getting fined for bending the rules in order to maximise profit from the customer. They know its closely looked at, yet they cheat, like in this case running slots faster than the guidelines and not respecting customer protection guidelines.

What are you not seeing about that fact????

We all know that auditors are not looking at how cards affect the hands and that the regulators have no interest in the game of poker and its odds. This area is NOT being scrutinised, but you want to believe they only bend the rules in scrutinised areas and not those in the ones that are not.

THIS OF COURSE, MAKES NO SENSE.

Confirmed bending of the rules in their favour in heavily scrutinised areas (proving greed and no care towards clients), yet you believe their greed would not lead them to bend the rules in unscrutinised areas!

Its so so naiive!!!!!! Your saying at board room level they are saying lets bend the rules in the areas looked at instead of those that are not... and them all agreeing that would be the way forward. You are also ignoring that nearly everyone notices the deck impossibilities, and alongside we have confirmed cheating by the companies in other areas.

And for the 40th time, I blame the non existent regulation towards deck operation and thats what i campaign for. The sites are in a business that attracts such types, they will always try and bend the rules through greed.

And for the 40th time, i play because i make holiday money. Do i want to auto fold flopped high straights and never play 4 connected high cards where there has been a raise preflop, because there is a standard result happening? No. I would like to make my money playing poker, not making decisions just because i know the outcome with a silly Playstation deck.

I can adjust my game and play a version loosely based on Poker. Im not over the moon about that, but its that or nothing. And thats what im left with.

You keep banging on about why would i play on sites i know are greedy and unscrupulous. Everyone knows bookies are this way at every race track in the country, but does it stop them from betting???? Your basically saying that everyone has to like what gambling sites/bookmakers do, or they should never gamble. You talk out your arse. No-one likes them, you are so childish in your comments.

I mean you even quote its my opinion like 1 in 10000 profiles are tweaked. I have never said this, so why do you quote other people and push it on me? Im pretty sure it was deliberate misinterpretation of what someone else was saying anyway. Its what you do best.

Well mate I have only seen your posts about omaha h/l in this thread. Based on these i can say you have very little idea about omaha h/l or heads up play.

First you complained that a guy keeps on beating you heads up although every time you are all in against him you have a 70/30.

If that is true and not entirely made up it means he is running you over in non showdown spots. He just keeps making you fold so much equity that he can take the hit of being a huge dog when you finally call.

I know so because to have such a gigantic preflop edge you must only call off with AA2x or A234 double suited type hands.These hands are very rare so the conclusion of a person who knows a little bit about h/l and heads up is you get run over because you are too tight.

The next time you speak about h/l you explain how you come in for a raise with a AKQJ type hand and how thats a great play because youc an win on only high boards and cant wrap your head around how the other players push A236 Type hands against you and come out ahead.

Well first of all as we have established before you seem to be overfolding so pushing you around like that is a great idea also maybe check the equity of these 2 hands. You might be surprised about what you see.

AKQJ Double suited is a dog against A236 with just one suit.

So yeah you seem to be pretty bad at Omaha h/l.

The crazy persons response is claiming it to be rigged while a person with the right poker mind will try to figure out why they are getting beat and to improve.

The rest of your post is even more baffling so the fact that gaming companies get caught and fined for things they shouldn't be doing is in your mind somehow an argument that supports your view that gaming companies can do what ever they want without oversight and have nothing to fear as they will never get caught anyway?

What trust me bro routine?

Games are rigged but i have no proof but trust me bro?

That routine?

I have asked before but what exactly would conclusive proof that there aren't house bots or rng manipulation look like?

It is really unclear what you are saying as you change your theory to fit eevry dumb narratice that crosses your mind.

So is it you in particular that is targeted? People at random? all people? just crushers?

I would suggest that you play around a bit with a variance calculator.

The long run is much longer than most people think especially in tournaments and a bad run can be much worse than most people think.

Its clear to me now. At the board room meeting somebody clearly says "hey guys, we have a revenue of hundred million dollars plus, but I have a terrific plan to make $10 more. Do you know that microstakes guy thewaddy? Lets slightly tweak his account so he runs a little worse Mwahahaha"

No they dont. And im sure you know this. Even in the thread to attract riggies its only 35%.
Furthemore if nearly everyone noticed there would be something to show for it.
But we have precisely nothing.

Kudos for you for being a lifelong member than, you really are a moral crusader :p
If I would despise a business so much as you do I wouldnt be a loyal member for 25+ years.
Especially not if it makes me so angry as you are. And all that for some holiday cash. I thought you owned multiple businesses, you dont need to work yourself up for some spending money silly waddy.

ahum... not once but twice

Memory got you down again Wad? Or did you not know thats 0,01% equals 1 in 10.000 🙂

Still waiting for an answer to this question...

Bro, just give up. There are plenty of arguments showing that online poker is rigged. Your only argument is that the rooms have a certificate from some private lab that works for money. And casinos have plenty of that. No laws, no regulations, etc.
​And yes, especially for the micro stakes, and I'll tell you the logic behind it. A player who understands ICM, has ranges, doesn't just limp but isolates, 3-bets enough, plays well post-flop, takes notes on players, and knows who is a nit, a station, or an aggro. There are a lot of these players, just as there are plenty of weak ones, especially at the micro and low stakes. So, figure it out yourself, if you canthough I'm starting to doubt your brain capacity at this point. Figure out why they would rig the game. For example, to have these good players get sucked out on by weaker ones in the mid-stage before the money.
​As for whether the rooms would risk doing this, I've told you a hundred times: there is no regulation. There is no law to stop them, no regulation. They can run their scam as they please.
​Summary: to put it more simply. They are protecting their customers for the sake of the ecosystem.
​As you know, some rooms have protected bots, they've had superusers, etc., all because a weak player won't come back if it isn't rigged.

Oh boy were to start.

See the main problem with this discussion is that you are overestimating your ability and your ego does not allow you to admit to yourself that you are wrong.

Its a common theme in this thread.

As usual everything you said is wrong and kind of dumb.

there is no regulation?

I mean there is MGA, Onjin, Hellenic gaming commission, UKGC and NJDGE just from the top of my head.

So just like you overestimate your ability to play poker well you overestimate how well you understand whats happening around you in general.

you are the weak player who is coming back.