President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Hush up. You're a poster child for "not so bright". Human technological supremacist .... LOL.
Yeah after our discussion on orbital mechanics I see 0 value in conversing with you either.
The only downward blip in CO2 emissions occurred during Covid.
That's a well meaning but naive illusion.Market demand for energy is insatiable, regardless of source. The idea that market forces are going to replace fossil fuel demand in any timeframe necessary to avoid civilization collapse is a fantasy. In 2018, the IPCC issued the SR15 and warned policymakers that we need a 45% reduction in carbon emissions by 2030 in order to have a cha
No its not well meaning and it's not an illusion
The percentage of renewals inreases and the technology gets better and cheaper. It's just a question of when it tips. The sooner the better
So here's where I find it hard to navigate the difference between my position and that of chezlaw.
He's adhering to a belief that clean energy will make carbon emissions go away as a result of market forces.
My policy would basically force that replacement by banning emissions except in necessary applications such as agriculture or interim electrical generation until renewables can be installed
Why can't chezlaw support the ban I propose ? Why does he insist that market forces take precedent over survival requirements ?
That's a pretty critical question. It's quite obviously not tipping fast enough to ensure AMOC doesn't tip into collapse first. In fact, it's not tipping at all yet.
And it doesn't matter how high the percentage of renewable energy goes if carbon emissions don't decline.
Pretty crazy given how joyless the Trump presidency seems compared to Obama, Biden and so many others.
Nut Nut's goal is actually to destroy the human race by encouraging people to pollute and consume to their full potential.
He's using this communication stratagem to flood the forum with his coordinated attack, and make every living being so annoyed by his nonsense to instinctively reject words like ''climate change''. ''CO2'' etc..
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That's a pretty critical question. It's quite obviously not tipping fast enough to ensure AMOC doesn't tip into collapse first. In fact, it's not tipping at all yet.
And it doesn't matter how high the percentage of renewable energy goes if carbon emissions don't decline.
I agree it's one of the critical moments.
When it's so clear we're moving towards it then the best we can do is try to speed it up.
Giving up would be a catastrophe
When it's so clear we're moving towards it then the best we can do is try to speed it up.
Giving up would be a catastrophe
I'm giving up on the fantasy that the market will solve it.
I'm willing to take the heat for regulating carbon emissions out of existence.
Catastrophic would be clinging to the belief that the market will solve this.
The "market" is simply a measure of what people want for themselves today.
The interests of people who will occupy the world in 50 years is not reflected in the market. They have no leverage, rights or legal representation.
The market is designed to fail at the moment when present day demand exceeds sustainable levels. We have clearly reached that threshold and are observing a failing and obsolete institution.
It was a wonderful and useful institution for a very long time. I'm not anti-market in principle. It's just time to recognize the obsolescence and retire it.
Trump wins while the common man loses ...
He could launch another coin today and they'd still eat it up again...
I'd guess a decent chunk of it was large brides, sorry, donations by companies and other countries.
I'm giving up on the fantasy that the market will solve it.
I'm willing to take the heat for regulating carbon emissions out of existence.
Catastrophic would be clinging to the belief that the market will solve this.
Not going to disagree with that
“By the way, on July 4th, it’s going to be approximately 107 degrees out, and I’m going to go, and I’m going to make a really long speech just to show that I can do anything,” Trump said during his appearance at the opening ceremony for the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library in Medora, N.D.
What a lovely way to spend the day!
In my opinion, my proposals are the most feasible. I understand the arguments to the contrary. The probability that a public which is obsessed with present day survival is going to elect someone with my policy agenda is close to zero. So, the political feasibility is easily discounted. Let's call it 0.001%. But there is no other apparent alternative which allows human civilizat
There’s your problem, you place the chance of civilizational collapse due to climate change far too high. The background chance of civilizational collapse due to climate change if we do nothing is probably closer to 1% than 100%.
There’s your problem, you place the chance of civilizational collapse due to climate change far too high. The background chance of civilizational collapse due to climate change if we do nothing is probably closer to 1% than 100%.
How do we avoid civilization collapse in the event of an AMOC collapse?
A recent study puts the chance of reaching an AMOC tipping point at 59% between 2037 and 2064.
Where does your 1% come from?
Yeah after our discussion on orbital mechanics I see 0 value in conversing with you either.
Please tell me there's a link to this.
If you want a summary, I'll provide it.
For the last million years, the Earth has regularly oscillated between ice ages and warm periods. The trigger for the transitions back and forth are regular changes in the Earth's orbital cycles which are not circular.
The primary reason for the recurring departure from circularity is the gravitational pull of large planets like Jupiter and Saturn.
But there is a departure from circularity which was inherent at the formation of the solar system of which I was unaware. E'criture knew more about that particular aspect of orbital dynamics than I did.
That additional knowledge he possessed was not relevant to the understanding of why we have regularly oscillated between ice ages and warm periods over the last million years, but it was something he was aware of that I wasn't.
Pretty crazy given how joyless the Trump presidency seems compared to Obama, Biden and so many others.
Watching old Obama videos and how he could walk the streets and how he was with people.
So, the political feasibility is easily discounted. Let's call it 0.001%.
But there is no other apparent alternative which allows human civilization to endure. So, I assign all other options a 0.000% chance of success. Zero feasibility.
0.001% > 0.000%, so therefore I believe that is more feasible.
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This doesnt feel like a particularly strong sales pitch for when you start contemplating killing the old and the weak to save the planet.
