President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by BobTheSlob

ftfy

yes and so is "not believing" it

because it is a concept

it's like free will. it's a thing you can discuss but it neither exists nor not exists. it is a concept.

“A concept is a brick. It can be used to build a courthouse of reason. Or it can be thrown through the window.”
-Gilles Deleuze


by amplify

yes and so is "not believing" it

because it is a concept

it's like free will. it's a thing you can discuss but it neither exists nor not exists. it is a concept.

“A concept is a brick. It can be used to build a courthouse of reason. Or it can be thrown through the window.”
-Gilles Deleuze

I'm sure you felt smart posting this lol. Are you Chezlaw's twin brother? Because you are doing the same awful philosophising that he does.

It's easy: gods do not exist, they are a human invention. Anyone claiming something else or trying to muddy the waters by philosophising should be locked away forever.

You're welcome. See a doctor today (not tomorrow)


by Trolly McTrollson

I don't see the value in removing the context. Maybe you can find some hypothetical case where the US hands bombs to a nation and is totally shocked when those bombs are exploding in refugee camps, but that's not the case for the arms being shipped to Israel.

I wasn't trying to remove the context. I always think context matters. I was asking generally whether context was a consideration for Victor. And I made it clear that it was easy to criticize U.S. policy with respect to the Gaza war even if you took context into account.


by BobTheSlob

I'm sure you felt smart posting this lol.

no, I felt like it was a basic comment that you wouldn't be able to understand so I was reluctant to engage at all and not doing so was the correct move


by amplify

no, I felt like it was a basic comment that you wouldn't be able to understand so I was reluctant to engage at all and not doing so was the correct move

Not engaging BobSlob is almost invariably +EV.


by amplify

no, I felt like it was a basic comment that you wouldn't be able to understand so I was reluctant to engage at all and not doing so was the correct move

godbothering philosophiser declares victory before picking up his ball to go home. A move never seen before lol.

I think the fact that the other godbotherer wants to be your friend says more than thousand words.

Also funny that you ignored the rest of my comment but went straight to being the poor guy who got insulted by the evil dumb guy lmao.


by geezerchess

Not engaging BobSlob is almost invariably +EV.

My mistake! Will not be engaging SlobOnAKnob again!


Trump still has not conceded he lost in 2020. Insane and inexcusable that the GOP elites enable this ****.


by Gorgonian

Whether you are a maga moron or not is frankly irrelevant. You're in the same class simply via your claim that anyone but trump and the uneducated maga buffoons are responsible for Jan 6th.

I frankly disagree.

As a Jewish child who grew up a few decades after the Holocaust, I had to come to terms with why the German nation chose to follow Hitler.

They Germans were desperate. The economic depression they suffered in the 1920's is pretty much unparallelled among white people since the beginning of the 20th century. People were literally starving to death and hyperinflation wiped out all of their savings.

As much as it might be convenient for the rest of the world, people are not just going to roll over and die quietly. They are going to be angry and if someone has to die, they're going to choose people other than themselves. Hitler was the avatar for their anger and he provided the German people with targets for their anger.

Now .... you can say that the Nazi's were 100% responsible for the Holocaust. But the French and British diplomats who insisted on the draconian terms at Versailles .... that's what created the demand for Hitler.

So ..... in the same way, we have neoliberals like Clinton who cater to big money interests that want the lowest manufacturing cost possible and they ship blue collar American manufacturing jobs to Mexico or China or India. A whole class of people is **** out of luck and they are desperate and angry.

Same thing is happening today with AI and robotics eliminating a whole bunch of jobs.

Neoliberal economics is indifferent to the wellbeing of the struggling class. And when the world is indifferent to them, they won't hesitate to burn it all down like the Germans did. The Trumpers are no different than the Germans. The suffering is not quite as acute yet .... but we're circling the drain in that direction.

I want to give the Trumpers and everyone else UBI .... take the edge off of the desperation that propels them to support a monster like Trump.


by Nut Nut

I frankly disagree.



by Rococo

Nut Nut,

I am probably closer to you on environmental policy than many people in this thread, and vastly closer to you than the median American.

I'm sorry to inform you but you are nothing like me when it comes to environmental policy.

Your drama about the "grave" consequences associated with giving up international commercial jet travel is right out of the bourgeois faux environmental playbook. You're a wonderful textbook example of the performative environmentalism of the global top 10%. You belong to a class of people who have brainwashed themselves to believe that they are environmentally virtuous.

Something like 50% of global emissions (and other pollution) is attributable to the wealthiest 10% of the global population. That's your tribe Rococo.

It was my tribe as well. And when I started explaining the CO2 math of my tribe's behavior to them .... they evicted me because they don't want to know.

I was a Jewish CFO. My social circle was full of affluent people. I had to let them go. They are nothing more than a mindless death cult.




by Nut Nut

I'm sorry to inform you but you are nothing like me when it comes to environmental policy. Your drama about the "grave" consequences associated with giving up international commercial jet travel is right out of the bourgeois faux environmental playbook. You're a wonderful textbook example of the performative environmentalism of the global top 10%. You belong to a class of peopl

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These are pretty good.



by Gorgonian

These are pretty good.

After the Biden stickers that's more than fair.


Especially considering the gas prices under Biden were also Trump's fault.


by Nut Nut

That's your tribe Rococo.

It was my tribe as well. And when I started explaining the CO2 math of my tribe's behavior to them .... they evicted me because they don't want to know.

I was a Jewish CFO. My social circle was full of affluent people. I had to let them go. They are nothing more than a mindless death cult.

Your guesses about how I live my life unsurprisingly are inaccurate. The square footage of my liviing space is well below the American average on a per person basis, and neither I nor my wife have owned a car in more than thirty years. (I am not crying poor. Those were choices I made as adult for reasons other than financial necessity.)

I don't see how you being Jewish is relevant to anything you want to discuss.


by Gorgonian

Especially considering the gas prices under Biden were also Trump's fault.

I always felt POTUS got more credit/blame than they ever deserved with respect to the price of gasoline. It’s a complex thing. If they could control the prices, they would.

But the Iran war is such an own goal it is the exception that proves the rule. The line to higher gas prices is direct and obvious due to that hideous miscalculation. Total Trumptardation.


Frankly, I find this line just as direct and obvious:

The blue line is inflation and the yellow shaded area is the duration of Trump's 2 year deal with OPEC.



by amplify

My mistake! Will not be engaging SlobOnAKnob again!

Best decision you made in your whole life! Thanks for giving my nerves a rest from your worthless babbling.


by BobTheSlob

Best decision you made in your whole life! Thanks for giving my nerves a rest from your worthless babbling.

Pot...kettle.


by Rococo

Your guesses about how I live my life unsurprisingly are inaccurate. The square footage of my liviing space is well below the American average on a per person basis, and neither I nor my wife have owned a car in more than thirty years. (I am not crying poor. Those were choices I made as adult for reasons other than financial necessity.)I don't see how you being Jewish is rel

I'm not guessing about your attitude about commercial air travel. You've posted about it here.

Jewish culture is more money-centric than others. My siblings and cousins are all multi-millionaires. My tribe members buys US elections and intimidates through AIPAC. We bat far above our weight when it comes to our influence on global society.

My rejection of the privilege of money got me rejected from my social tribe.


Two years ago I made a bet with someone I've known for 30 years.

I bet him that international commercial jet aviation would be banned within 10 years (by 2034).

His response .... "rich people will never give it up".

He won't get laid without taking his girlfriend on those trips.

In a nutshell, that's why human civilization is heading for its demise.


Here's some math behind my distaste for international recreational jet aviation.

Global CO2 emissions are approaching 40 billion tons per year or about 5 tons per human on planet Earth.

In 2018, the IPCC said we need to cut that by nearly 50% by 2030 to have a chance to stay under 1.5C of post-industrial warming (an objective which is not longer possible).

That means ~ 2.5 tons of CO2 emissions per person / year.

A single international trip can result in 2 tons of emissions per passenger. It's impossible for someone to fly like that and stay under the international goal.

The average American CO2 footprint is 15 tons per year, ~ 6x the global recommendation. My wealthy community .... lots of them are at 50 tons+. It's obscene.


Did you reject them or did they reject you?

by Nut Nut

I was a Jewish CFO. My social circle was full of affluent people. I had to let them go.

by Nut Nut

My rejection of the privilege of money got me rejected from my social tribe.

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