The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

I never said not listen to the student I said the best play here is to refer the student to the folks qualified to handle this after the student confided in you .

Why on earth would I tell someone they need counselling just because they came out as trans?

Should I tell someone they should go to counselling if they come out as gay? Like if a male student mentions their boyfriend to me, should I say I'm not qualified to handle this, go the counsellor! Imagine how utterly inappropriate that would be.

I'll give an example where I would let a student know about counselling services. If a student asks for an exemption for a midterm because their parent just died, then I'll let them know about various supports on campus as part of that conversation. There is an acute problem that potentially could be supported. There isn't a problem with being trans.

You enjoy that a student can tell you they are trans. You say it's "fun" telling a parent they can F off if they ask questions about their child.

This is bizarro stuff.

Lol. It is literally the law in my jurisdiction, you can not tell parents anything about their children, not even whether they are in your class. They are adults. But unfortunately many parents still helicopter parent when their kids go to university, almost always in my observation in ways that are both extremely obnoxious and often harmful to their kids who would be much better served by talking to their professors themselves. This isn't elementary school. Parents absolutely should **** off, and I have zero issues (politely) informing them of the legal restrictions that prevents me from addressing their voluminous emails.

I didn't "enjoy" a student coming out, but I was honoured that they trust me enough to share what was clearly a vulnerable moment for them. I am not sure why you think this is remotely a bad thing.

Ok, you didn't "enjoy" the student coming out. You "treasured" it. That might be even weirder, somehow.

Use your words. What - exactly - is wrong with it? A student felt comfortable enough with me to share, in a very emotionally vulnerable way, that they were trans. It was a rather tender moment, hard to convey over the internet, but absolutely I will treasure it. For most of us, being able to connect emotionally with other humans isn't some terrible thing.

I still don't understand what some of your folks find problematic about uke_master's interaction with the student.

Although I have taken note those opposed to Uke being empathic toward a troubled student are the same folks here who think homeless folks belong in labor camps or left for dead in the street.

So tender

Most normal humans think it is a good thing to have empathy towards your students as a teacher. However if the student is trans, all bets are off and, uh, checks notes,
1) Teacher sent to HR
2) Student sent to counselling
3) Just general mockery all around.

I have no issue with his interaction with the student as long as at the end of it he referred the student to a school counselor or a professional.

I interpreted it as the student being in distress that you were the only one he could trust

Also a vast majority of the trans community is a mental health issue not all but most

Very odd.

Fair enough. I assume Uke is experienced enough to know when/if a student needs to seek help from a counselor or professional health care provider.

This is gross. The idea that for a trans person the mere act of confiding in their teacher that they are trans means immediate told they need to go to counseling? It would be so wildly inappropriate to have a student come out to me and then tell them they should go to counselling. It is the kind of nonsense you almost certainly would never utter if it was anything but for a trans person.

This is the kind of BS why many trans people don't feel comfortable outing themselves to people they don't know.

I have taught something like 8000 students over 20 years now. Enough so I've experienced probably every major life crisis students can have multiple times over. I've shared resources on campus quite a number of times - particularly when it comes to death and severe illness - but the number of times I've actually been more proactive than just giving them some information about where they could go is only a handful, and every time due to suicide worries.

The idea that I would do this because a trans person told me they were trans? Revolting.

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lol oh poilievre. Does this little bit in his car where he real talks about the liberals taking 25k a plate donations from bc housing developers. It’s persuasive, but then I was like isn’t the max like 1750 or something and corporate donations banned for decades? Ah yes, this 25k a plate thing was from 2014, from a minister in a municipal election when that was still allowed in BC which it now isn’t.

I really hate this deceptive **** that takes a while to google and parse out to even figure out wtf the deception is but most people probably just lap it up and believe carney is at 25k/plate fundraisers.

Probably but we can't expect everyone to reach these standards. This is why rules are in place to seek higher guidance or report things that almost cross the line

Do you believe that Uke broke a rule in the specific situation she discussed with us? If so, what rule do you believe she violated?

You're a math teacher. I'm struggling to find "discuss student sexuality" in that job description. If I was in that spot and a student started in with that topic I'd say "um yeah, let's focus here on the math."

And if a parent started asking stuff about their kid that I legally cannot answer, I'd find it a tough spot and explain to them the best I could why I can't reply. I certainly wouldn't describe that scenario as fun.

It's just strange how much pleasure this brings you.

She ? I Assumed Uke was a he my bad if I was wrong

I be curious if the meeting was a closed door or open door meeting .

I could be mistaken ofc, but I believe Uke is of the female persuasion.

That is a horrible response. It is dismissive and implies that the student was in the wrong to share their true name with you. I think I said something more like "Thank you for sharing [name]". This wasn't some extended discussion of the student's sexuality, we continued the existing conversation about learning math but now I could use their name as opposed to the dead name I had on my spreadsheets. And yes while obviously my focus is math, over the years a million other issues come up in discussion with students over the years and absolutely it is part of the "job description" to have basic human empathy.

Let me put it this way. Let's say a student tells me their family member died. Do you think I should say "um year, let's focus here on the math"?

I get that you are trying to make a volcano out of a BBQ here (like that line lagtight!), but uh ya as I already told you I am (obviously?) polite and explain the legal rules. I also explained to you why I am endlessly frustrated by the helicopter parents and so yes I am very happy these rules exist and I don't have to deal with them and can tell them - politely, professionally, like duh obviously - to **** the **** off.

I (almost never) close my office door when a student is there. If I was saying all the horrible things you people think I should say to trans students and closed the door on them? Yikes.