When The Doors of Perception Are Closed

before anyone says anything I didnt see V1's rebuy pre

To you it matters but V2 definitely has the right to raise as he is raising your raise not the all-in where the raise was not large enough to qualify to re-open the action.

I thought V1's raise was large enough that V2 or you could 5!

I wouldn't be expecting V1 to limp/shove to a 3!, even knowing he had only 100.

The FreeCard on the turn told you that you could make him fold. It told me that he doesn’t have much and can’t call much.

You’re betting for value, but probably need to size down to get a call. I don’t know if you can count on his stickiness with this sizing.

If you think he was about to shove, maybe a tiny bet to try and induce. You obviously can’t check and risk a check back. Maybe this shove show is why you jammed

Your bet told the bad news and let a thinking player get away from his hand. The BOB (bet out of the blue) is a ‘red flag’ and enough to make me fold, but I think you want a call. It’s kinda an amateur play, because a call with worse is unlikely…

…but your read is he’s calling down, so maybe it’s fine.

I think you must be very hard to read and you’re full of aggressive plays. A lot of things worse you could do than putting villain to the test.

You don't want to do it, if you aren't pretty sure the ruling would go right, but you might call the floor and ask that V2's push stand.

Grunch:

PRE - nice raise size.

FLOP - Yucko flop. Calling 1/4 pot with the Kh in our hand seems reasonable. I'd like it better if the Ah was on board and one of the other cards was off-suit.

TURN - seems standard.

RIVER - Ehhhh...why can't V just have AhXx here? Maybe we cooler TT or QhQx, but otherwise, this seems like an over-play. If we just check, V will tell us what he has with his actions. This feels like we may have just torched $475 unnecessarily, or let V off the hook with a worse hand that may have stabbed at this if we checked again.

That wouldn't change anything, IMO. I'd mostly expect him to limp-fold to our 3B, not limp-jam. We're targeting V2, not V1.

V1's jam doesn't matter. The action is still open for V2 to jam.

When V2 tries to 5B jam, I'd be leery of continuing. He's going to have a pretty nutted range here.

The dealer did us a favor by letting us see a flop without having to risk $650.

He may have a nutted range with the shove, but we want it to stand. He might go smaller with AA. If he has AA, so be it.

V2 absolutely had the right to raise and you should have called the floor. I don’t really mess around with gaming the rules in poker. That’s part of the integrity of the game to me.

Obviously try to get out of this seat (deep and to the right of the only competent player in the room, although it doesn't factor in this hand).

ETA: Lol @ the preflop action being closed for V2, it clearly isn't. We really should have spotted this in game time and confirmed. It actually presents a semi-interesting spot facing the jam, at least imo, as no one does this in my game for this amount without pretty much AA. But I'm guessing this game differs and we'll just snap it off. ETA#3: The dood thinking the action is closed has every right to speak up if he thinks there is a dealer error being made, although it does so happen he is incorrect here (he's allowed to be). Ditto for dealer. But if we know a mistake is being made here we have to also speak up ourselves and make sure to get the floor involved if necessary. Really surprised no one else at the table spotted this.

I always have difficulty with 3bet sizing this deep. If we think UTG may be limp/jamming his small stack a decent percentage of the time, then sizing smallish to re-open the action would be fine. Otherwise, how much is the sticky Villain willing to play for preflop? Cuz I like offering poor 8:1 IO, but that would mean a 3bet to more or less the whole shorty stack, but not sure if we're getting action on $100?

I'd play postflop the same. Not awesome facing a small flop bet in a protected pot, but I don't think we can fold to a single bet this size. Turn check seems obvious. And I also go for the PSB gold and just hope this sticky guy has AA/TT or a big pear + heart.

ETA#2: Lol, I thought the A hearts was on the flop and that we rivered the nuts (first post of the morning, lol @ me). I think some of my same reasoning does apply for a shove (we can still get called by worse). But the fact that Axh is still in the mix and we could be punting into it makes it more meh. So with that in mind I probably size way down and make a nitty fold to a shove.

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Oh sorry I messed up the action pre somehow. Nevermind. Hand doesnt make sense now. The house was called and he wasn't allowed to re-raise based on the action, I wrote it down wrong somehow.

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