Shaun Deeb 100k to 1M 17% body fat bet with Bill Perkins

Nice pun. Example numero uno would be me lacking self-control and posting.

Rather than saying douche, I think arrogant and acerbic would be more precise. And those two traits are frequent bedfellows.

I think if he moved to somewhere warmer he might lighten up, both in temperament and thickness. And while winter weather generally cultivates deep thinking, it also fosters misery.

It's good to see Shaun Deeb has kept one or two of the pounds he lost, off.

Is fat-shaming still a thing that we aren't done with?

Is mentioning someone has put some, if not all of the weight they lost, back on, fat-shaming ?

When it is directed at that fat douche for sure its not just warranted but should be encouraged.

The world needs more fat shaming, not less. It's not about beauty. These morbidly obese people are slowly killing themselves, not to mention being a relentless drain on society's healthcare resources.

I feel like when someone is so public about the bet, and weight loss etc. And then he's bigger than ever immediately after, it's fair game

Right.

Sitting for hours at a poker table is perfectly healthy and not a drain on society's healthcare resources. Yes that was sarcasm.

Sitting 8 hours a day in a cubicle looking at a computer is most certainly unhealthy. Do we work shame people? Working at a job that requires a person to climb up on a ladder increases their risk of major injury, should they be work shamed? Driving fast definitely increases risk of major injury. Fast shaming?

Point is, almost anything considered even just mildly fun/interesting/cool has some negative life consequences. Most jobs have some sort of theoretical health risk. Where do we draw the line?

Is it ok to shame the fat people who are slowly killing themselves, but only if you are life-maxing yourself? If so, what the hell you are doing spending time on the internet? Surely your life could be extended further doing other activities.

Slowly killing themselves/endangering others: alcoholics; drug addicts; smokers; vapers; the sedentary; speeding drivers; avoiding regular check-ups and basic diagnostics; etcetera. According to your 'logic', they need to be shamed and shamed more as well.

As for morbid obesity, it's a disease and not simply a choice that can be cured by lifestyle choice. There are biological underpinnings for it. And while some obese people can overcome their excessive weight with lifestyle changes alone, many if not most are unable to reach healthy weights on their own - their disease that causes excessive food cravings, overeating, and an unhealthy setpoint for calories taken in and calories burned needs more than attempts to change lifestyle alone.

All of those already get shamed, relentlessly and thoroughly. It's only the obese that get this layer of PC protection.

You could argue lawmakers are treating overeating better than those other unhealhty habits as well.
Here we pay massive excise tax on alcohol and cigarettes, if you speed 10km (6 miles) you are paying around €200 ($230).. Yet if you decide to stuff your body full of candy and mcdonalds no excise tax or discouragement at all.

If you speed you can literally get arrested. What is even being argued here?

Morbid obesity is not a disease, it’s a lifestyle choice. Humans have never been this fat. We are biologically not meant to reach the sizes and weights some people have achieved in modern times.

The people who can’t maintain a healthy weight due to medical issues are a tiny fraction of the obese population. For the vast majority they lack self control. It’s really simple. If you stop eating high calorie, high fat slop and drinking liquid sugar you will lose weight.

And not unimportant..
We shield children as much as possible from all those other unhealthy habits
Yet if a kid has some money and wants to grub down a couple of happy meals he is free to do so
Dont expect that child do become a non-overweight adult

Before the 20th century it was basically impossible for your average person to be obese. That privilege was reserved for the rare king or nobleman. The average person didn’t have enough **** food and time to get obscenely fat.

The whole body positivity, fat acceptance movement was a momentary lapse in judgement and it’s been dead in the water since the advent of GLP-1s.

Staying skinny in America is hard, especially for lower income people but it’s not some incurable disease.

a disease lol. shaun deeb has millions. if he put effort into not being fat as f he wouldn't be. it's laziness.

The biology does not support that. Hypothalamic control of hunger and satiety coupled with signals relevant to same from the gut are typically abnormal in the morbidly obese. If you need further biological evidence, the GLP-1s provide it. There are now thousands of obese people all over the world who've participated in controlled clinical trials of semaglutide and other GLP-1 mimics, and the placebo control group invariably receives nutritional and dietary advice and plans, along with exercise programs, yet they fail to lose on average more than a tiny fraction of their body weight. Compared to those taking GLP-1 mimics and also receiving the same dietary advice and exercise regimen and losing 20% or more of their body weight, the difference is substantial, potentially life altering, and plain to everyone.

As "just say no" from Nancy Reagan when she was first lady and addressing the nation's drug abuse problem, and failing to make even a tangible dent in the problem, so too is it profoundly simplistic and naive to leave out the role for pathobiology and expect "just say no to food and get off your behind" will solve the worldwide obesity problem.

If you took 100 morbidly obese people and had complete control over their food intake for 6 months they would all lose a significant amount of weight. Calling it a disease as a blanket statement for all morbidly obese people is an attempt to absolve "hand-to-mouth" self-responsibility.

nonsense. if that was true we would have had tons of fat people forever. and yet we've had them for what 50 years?

Different food availability.

If you don't believe that the brain and the brain-gut axis control hand to mouth decisionmaking, then what does?

Do you not believe you make decisions with your brain?

So making poor decisions is a disease?

Never said or implied that in what I wrote. But satiety, cravings, and the calorie burn to intake set point are controlled by the brain and brain-gut axis, and don't work properly in most morbidly obese people. That obese people in control groups in clinical trials fail to lose weight despite nutritionist-approved meal plans and physiotherapist approved exercise programs and encouragement from their personal physicians shows the similarity between the morbidly obese and other disuse disorders. It's even the case that GLP-1 mimics control cravings not only in obese people, but in cigarette smokers and drug abusers as well, establishing that there is overlap between the neural circuits exerting control over all of these disorders.