After 20k hands, 72o is more profitable than QQ

After 20k hands, 72o is more profitable than QQ

Poker Hand #HD2903002016: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/08 18:43:06
Table 'NLHWhite60' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($3.06 in chips)
Seat 2: 8100f244 ($2.55 in chips)
Seat 3: 5c7e8096 ($1.25 in chips)
Seat 4: 46afd4e ($2.89 in chips)
Seat 5: 299aeae2 ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 6: 7afdb1a0 ($2.15 in chips)
299aeae2: posts small blind $0.01
7afdb1a0: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qd]
Dealt to 8100f244
Dealt to 5c7e8096
Dealt to 46afd4e
Dealt to 299aeae2
Dealt to 7afdb1a0
Hero: raises $0.04 to $0.06
8100f244: folds
5c7e8096: calls $0.06
46afd4e: folds
299aeae2: raises $0.24 to $0.3
7afdb1a0: folds
Hero: raises $0.34 to $0.64
5c7e8096: folds
299aeae2: raises $1.42 to $2.06 and is all-in
Hero: calls $1.42
299aeae2: shows [Kd Kh]
Hero: shows [Qs Qd]
*** FLOP *** [Ks 9s 2s]
*** TURN *** [Ks 9s 2s] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 9s 2s 8c] [Tc]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
299aeae2 collected $3.98 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.2 | Rake $0.2 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [Ks 9s 2s 8c Tc]
Seat 1: Hero showed [Qs Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: 8100f244 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 5c7e8096 folded before Flop
Seat 4: 46afd4e (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 299aeae2 (small blind) showed [Kd Kh] and won ($3.98) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: 7afdb1a0 (big blind) folded before Flop

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Poker Hand #HD2906002887: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/10 18:53:03
Table 'NLHWhite133' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 3f52771f ($2.44 in chips)
Seat 2: b9e6e83e ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 3: 7ebacaa2 ($1.87 in chips)
Seat 4: ff4cf03d ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($2.06 in chips)
Seat 6: a01330a6 ($2.05 in chips)
ff4cf03d: posts small blind $0.01
Hero: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 3f52771f
Dealt to b9e6e83e
Dealt to 7ebacaa2
Dealt to ff4cf03d
Dealt to Hero [Qd Qs]
Dealt to a01330a6
a01330a6: raises $0.02 to $0.04
3f52771f: folds
b9e6e83e: raises $0.09 to $0.13
7ebacaa2: folds
ff4cf03d: folds
Hero: raises $0.16 to $0.29
a01330a6: folds
b9e6e83e: raises $0.63 to $0.92
Hero: calls $0.63
*** FLOP *** [5h 2c 5s]
Hero: checks
b9e6e83e: bets $0.63
Hero: raises $0.51 to $1.14 and is all-in
b9e6e83e: calls $0.51
Hero: shows [Qd Qs] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
b9e6e83e: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
*** TURN *** [5h 2c 5s] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [5h 2c 5s 5d] [Th]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
b9e6e83e collected $3.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.17 | Rake $0.2 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [5h 2c 5s 5d Th]
Seat 1: 3f52771f folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: b9e6e83e showed [Kc Kd] and won ($3.95) with a full house, Fives full of Kings
Seat 3: 7ebacaa2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ff4cf03d (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Hero (big blind) showed [Qd Qs] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Queens
Seat 6: a01330a6 folded before Flop

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Poker Hand #HD2900020112: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/06 16:58:46
Table 'NLHWhite51' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: e501dd95 ($3.04 in chips)
Seat 2: cdea06ae ($2.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($2 in chips)
Seat 4: 71f234c8 ($0.75 in chips)
Seat 5: e8fb6572 ($2.19 in chips)
Seat 6: de4f62a0 ($0.78 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.01
71f234c8: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to e501dd95
Dealt to cdea06ae
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qc]
Dealt to 71f234c8
Dealt to e8fb6572
Dealt to de4f62a0
e8fb6572: folds
de4f62a0: folds
e501dd95: folds
cdea06ae: folds
Hero: raises $0.04 to $0.06
71f234c8: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [8d Js 5h]
Hero: bets $0.04
71f234c8: calls $0.04
*** TURN *** [8d Js 5h] [4s]
Hero: bets $0.07
71f234c8: calls $0.07
*** RIVER *** [8d Js 5h 4s] [9s]
Hero: bets $0.12
71f234c8: raises $0.46 to $0.58 and is all-in
Hero: calls $0.46
71f234c8: shows [As 2s] (a flush Ace high)
Hero: shows [Qh Qc] (a pair of Queens)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
71f234c8 collected $1.41 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.5 | Rake $0.07 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [8d Js 5h 4s 9s]
Seat 1: e501dd95 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: cdea06ae (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) showed [Qh Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: 71f234c8 (big blind) showed [As 2s] and won ($1.41) with a flush Ace high
Seat 5: e8fb6572 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: de4f62a0 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Poker Hand #HD2899961637: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/06 16:16:32
Table 'NLHWhite20' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: cb721d8b ($2.33 in chips)
Seat 3: 11cb35c ($5.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($3.92 in chips)
Seat 5: 5ec04a09 ($2 in chips)
Seat 6: da7b564 ($0.87 in chips)
5ec04a09: posts small blind $0.01
da7b564: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cb721d8b
Dealt to 11cb35c
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qd]
Dealt to 5ec04a09
Dealt to da7b564
cb721d8b: folds
11cb35c: folds
Hero: raises $0.04 to $0.06
5ec04a09: raises $0.07 to $0.13
da7b564: raises $0.24 to $0.37
Hero: calls $0.31
5ec04a09: calls $0.24
*** FLOP *** [2d 8h 9d]
5ec04a09: checks
da7b564: checks
Hero: bets $0.37
5ec04a09: calls $0.37
da7b564: calls $0.37
*** TURN *** [2d 8h 9d] [4h]
5ec04a09: checks
da7b564: checks
Hero: bets $0.74
5ec04a09: raises $0.52 to $1.26 and is all-in
da7b564: calls $0.13 and is all-in
Hero: calls $0.52
5ec04a09: shows [8c 8d] (three of a kind, Eights)
da7b564: shows [Qc As] (Ace high)
Hero: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
*** RIVER *** [2d 8h 9d 4h] [7d]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
5ec04a09 collected $2.49 from pot
5ec04a09 collected $2.17 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.87 | Rake $0.19 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [2d 8h 9d 4h 7d]
Seat 2: cb721d8b folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 11cb35c folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hero (button) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: 5ec04a09 (small blind) showed [8c 8d] and won ($4.66) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: da7b564 (big blind) showed [Qc As] and lost with Ace high

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Poker Hand #HD2899964596: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/06 16:41:37
Table 'NLHWhite104' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: b5699c6f ($2.1 in chips)
Seat 3: 1deebffa ($2.12 in chips)
Seat 4: 13e80330 ($3.27 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($2.01 in chips)
Seat 6: 6b734d5d ($2.11 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.01
6b734d5d: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to b5699c6f
Dealt to 1deebffa
Dealt to 13e80330
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qd]
Dealt to 6b734d5d
b5699c6f: folds
1deebffa: raises $0.03 to $0.05
13e80330: raises $0.13 to $0.18
Hero: raises $0.33 to $0.51
6b734d5d: folds
1deebffa: folds
13e80330: raises $0.88 to $1.39
Hero: raises $0.62 to $2.01 and is all-in
13e80330: calls $0.62
Hero: shows [Qh Qd]
13e80330: shows [Kc Kd]
*** FLOP *** [3s 5h 6d]
13e80330: Chooses to EV Cashout
*** TURN *** [3s 5h 6d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [3s 5h 6d Ad] [Ac]
13e80330: Pays Cashout Risk ($0.43)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
13e80330 collected $3.87 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.09 | Rake $0.2 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [3s 5h 6d Ad Ac]
Seat 1: b5699c6f folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 1deebffa folded before Flop
Seat 4: 13e80330 (button) showed [Kc Kd] and won ($3.87) with two pair, Aces and Kings, Cashout Risk ($0.43)
Seat 5: Hero (small blind) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 6: 6b734d5d (big blind) folded before Flop

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Poker Hand #HD2904577347: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/09 19:18:57
Table 'NLHWhite122' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 54240a5c ($2.3 in chips)
Seat 2: 3affcbe3 ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($3.72 in chips)
Seat 4: 4df8fb75 ($1.92 in chips)
Seat 5: a25ea61 ($2 in chips)
Seat 6: d290957d ($2.49 in chips)
d290957d: posts small blind $0.01
54240a5c: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 54240a5c
Dealt to 3affcbe3
Dealt to Hero [Qh Qd]
Dealt to 4df8fb75
Dealt to a25ea61
Dealt to d290957d
3affcbe3: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Hero: raises $0.15 to $0.21
4df8fb75: folds
a25ea61: folds
d290957d: folds
54240a5c: calls $0.19
3affcbe3: raises $0.32 to $0.53
Hero: calls $0.32
54240a5c: calls $0.32
*** FLOP *** [2d 9c 9s]
54240a5c: checks
3affcbe3: bets $1.44 and is all-in
Hero: calls $1.44
54240a5c: folds
3affcbe3: shows [As Ad] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Hero: shows [Qh Qd] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
*** TURN *** [2d 9c 9s] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [2d 9c 9s 6h] [8s]
54240a5c: shows [Ah Qs] (a pair of Nines)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
3affcbe3 collected $4.26 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.48 | Rake $0.2 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [2d 9c 9s 6h 8s]
Seat 1: 54240a5c (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: 3affcbe3 showed [As Ad] and won ($4.26) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 3: Hero showed [Qh Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 4: 4df8fb75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: a25ea61 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: d290957d (small blind) folded before Flop

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Poker Hand #HD2862388552: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/05/11 19:06:15
Table 'NLHWhite156' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: 87876fc3 ($0.73 in chips)
Seat 2: b868023a ($1.1 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($3.26 in chips)
Seat 4: 9c11f688 ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: d29d139a ($2.05 in chips)
9c11f688: posts small blind $0.01
d29d139a: posts big blind $0.02
87876fc3: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 87876fc3
Dealt to b868023a
Dealt to Hero [Qd Qs]
Dealt to 9c11f688
Dealt to d29d139a
87876fc3: raises $0.02 to $0.04
b868023a: folds
Hero: raises $0.11 to $0.15
9c11f688: folds
d29d139a: folds
87876fc3: raises $0.58 to $0.73 and is all-in
Hero: calls $0.58
87876fc3: shows [Kc 9c]
Hero: shows [Qd Qs]
*** FLOP *** [5c Qh 4c]
*** TURN *** [5c Qh 4c] [Tc]
87876fc3: Chooses to EV Cashout
*** RIVER *** [5c Qh 4c Tc] [9d]
87876fc3: Pays Cashout Risk ($0.34)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
87876fc3 collected $1.4 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.49 | Rake $0.07 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [5c Qh 4c Tc 9d]
Seat 1: 87876fc3 showed [Kc 9c] and won ($1.4) with a flush King high, Cashout Risk ($0.34)
Seat 2: b868023a folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hero (button) showed [Qd Qs] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: 9c11f688 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: d29d139a (big blind) folded before Flop

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Poker Hand #HD2862386126: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/05/11 18:47:34
Table 'NLHWhite156' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: 7415dd31 ($2.44 in chips)
Seat 2: 14f46487 ($1.4 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($3.53 in chips)
Seat 4: 9c11f688 ($2.07 in chips)
Seat 5: d29d139a ($2.01 in chips)
Seat 6: e10d77ea ($3.83 in chips)
7415dd31: posts small blind $0.01
14f46487: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 7415dd31
Dealt to 14f46487
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qd]
Dealt to 9c11f688
Dealt to d29d139a
Dealt to e10d77ea
Hero: raises $0.04 to $0.06
9c11f688: folds
d29d139a: folds
e10d77ea: folds
7415dd31: calls $0.05
14f46487: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4c As]
7415dd31: checks
Hero: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc 4c As] [2c]
7415dd31: bets $0.05
Hero: raises $0.18 to $0.23
7415dd31: calls $0.18
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4c As 2c] [2s]
7415dd31: checks
Hero: checks
7415dd31: shows [Ac Jh] (two pair, Aces and Twos)
Hero: shows [Qs Qd] (two pair, Queens and Twos)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
7415dd31 collected $0.56 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.6 | Rake $0.02 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [Kc 4c As 2c 2s]
Seat 1: 7415dd31 (small blind) showed [Ac Jh] and won ($0.56) with two pair, Aces and Twos
Seat 2: 14f46487 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Hero showed [Qs Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Twos
Seat 4: 9c11f688 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: d29d139a folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: e10d77ea (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Poker Hand #HD2906047363: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2026/06/10 19:02:34
Table 'NLHWhite37' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: f59dfdc6 ($2.13 in chips)
Seat 2: 711ed1c4 ($2.21 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($2.23 in chips)
Seat 4: 8216005a ($2 in chips)
Seat 5: 62f0b8a8 ($1.55 in chips)
Seat 6: de097af5 ($2.86 in chips)
62f0b8a8: posts small blind $0.01
de097af5: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to f59dfdc6
Dealt to 711ed1c4
Dealt to Hero [Qc Qs]
Dealt to 8216005a
Dealt to 62f0b8a8
Dealt to de097af5
f59dfdc6: folds
711ed1c4: folds
Hero: raises $0.04 to $0.06
8216005a: folds
62f0b8a8: raises $1.49 to $1.55 and is all-in
de097af5: folds
Hero: calls $1.49
62f0b8a8: shows [Ac Ah]
Hero: shows [Qc Qs]
*** FLOP *** [3s Kh 6h]
*** TURN *** [3s Kh 6h] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [3s Kh 6h 4d] [Th]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
62f0b8a8 collected $2.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.12 | Rake $0.15 | Jackpot $0.02 | Bingo $0 | Fortune $0 | Tax $0
Board [3s Kh 6h 4d Th]
Seat 1: f59dfdc6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 711ed1c4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Hero showed [Qc Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: 8216005a (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 62f0b8a8 (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won ($2.95) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: de097af5 (big blind) folded before Flop

10 June 2026 at 07:06 PM
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post fewer hands and ask questions about the hands. At 2nl against a lot of players you can generally fold QQ to 4/5-bet shoves preflop.. but like everything in poker there are many variables and there are times when you would call based on eff stack and villain stats.


by Burkeman

post fewer hands and ask questions about the hands. At 2nl against a lot of players you can generally fold QQ to 4/5-bet shoves preflop.. but like everything in poker there are many variables and there are times when you would call based on eff stack and villain stats.

I just wanted to share because it is interesting how a monster hand like QQ can be so difficult to play.
You would be led to believe that at 2NL, just putting it in pre-flop without thinking is going to print you money, but it is not printing at all (but maybe the sample size at 20k hands is just small).


i'm down lifetime with QQ live too. run unreal terrible with the hand. even folding to 4bets routinely still think i'm down significantly.


Just play more

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