AA Facing Min-3!
1/3 NL, no strong reads, but assume villain is bad. Have not seen him 3!. Have been at the table about an hour, and all
In retrospect, I think it would have been better to double it again and make it 60 or throw in 2 green chips and make it 65. That way there would be some ambiguity that I could be trying to see where I was at, or playing back. Of course if I did that, any pp would call. Make it 45 seems bad, as it doesn't build the pot much.
I tend to prefer that is general with preflop open sizing and post flop sizing, that a decent player could make a good read on what typeof hand I have by the sizing. Like I could have a bluff or semibluff and not value.
I think it's results oriented to say a min-click would be better because he folded. If he called a min-click and out-flopped you, or if you didn't get all the money in with the best hand post flop, we could say you shouldn't have min-clicked it pre.
He happened to be 3B-clicking it with something that couldn't continue vs a normal size 4B. That doesn't mean the 4B size was wrong.
I think it's results oriented to say a min-click would be better because he folded. If he called a min-click and out-flopped you, or if you didn't get all the money in with the best hand post flop, we could say you shouldn't have min-clicked it pre.He happened to be 3B-clicking it with something that couldn't continue vs a normal size 4B. That doesn't mean the 4B size was wrong
If his 3!-click range was weighted towards worse than 99+/AQ+, then maybe going small like 60/65 would have been better. If he had AK/QQ/AK, it would also give him an excuse for not putting me on AA/KK.
If his 3!-click range was weighted towards worse than 99+/AQ+, then maybe going small like 60/65 would have been better. If he had AK/QQ/AK, it would also give him an excuse for not putting me on AA/KK.
If we know his 3B click range is weak, AND we know he'll continue to a click-back 4B, especially if he ever 5B's, then, maybe, we can argue that clicking it back is better.
The challenges I have with the 4B click are:
1. We probably haven't seen him 3B click enough to confidently define his range.
2. We're OOP, and generally we'd prefer to mitigate our positional disadvantage by decreasing the post flop SPR.
3. Clicking it back lays V the correct price to continue with any two cards, making it harder for us to define his range post flop. We'd prefer to lay him incorrect odds, even while hoping he still continues. It helps if we can remove some more speculative hands from his 4B-calling range.
4. V's 3B click is potentially inducing. He could be clicking it hoping we'll 4B. But also, he may level himself into thinking we're 4B'ing light, because he clicked it and we perceive ourselves as still being uncapped, whereas we might think V's click caps him. He may 5B bluff, or 5B light, or simply continue too wide because he's suspicious.
5. We probably wouldn't ever click it back with a bluff. If we were going to bluff, we'd probably 4B to a more normal size. The click looks pretty face up. It allows V to see a cheap flop and play perfectly IP, fairly certain about which flops are bad for our 4B range and better for his 3B-click range.
I don't think the answer is to click it back with AA. I think the answer is to 4B a range that includes some other hands, some of which we'd consider bluffs, regardless of what 4B size we use. We can click it back or 4B to a normal size, and not be overly concerned with how V responds when we are at the top of range.
You happened to have AA here. Imagine if you clicked it with A5s, or 76s, or 99, and got him to fold any hand with decent equity (basically any hand). That's a win.
If you want to click it back with AA, consider if you would also be comfortable clicking it back with a polar range.
The point is to think about the ranges as much as the raise size.
I don't know if I need to be balanced, particularly against a minraising fish.
The small 4! looks more like a bluff. If I was bluffing, I could try to take it postflop if he called the 4!.
Pot would be 94.
Sometimes when I'm in a mood to be a little annoying, or more likely need to put distraction pressure on a V, I'll say "pot" and put in some chips that are not a pot bet.
A table discussion quickly happens and I defend my bet size while others do a formal accounting and tell me how stupid I am. The dealer says "pot" means nothing in NLH. Someone jokes that I must be smoking pot.
All the table noise makes it nearly impossible for V to think clearly. More often than not, he'll get agitated and call.
I know some of you will yell foul and angle, but I put this in the category of, "Of course I lied. It's poker, Phil."
