GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread

He's 50% on game-winners in the playoffs or Finals, but if you include all the "in-and-outers", he's like 75%.

So thanks for once again illuminating MJ's goat caliber

Remember when FG said Wemby was good and now he's put one of the greatest runs ever by a young guy (significantly better than what MJ did), and now he's terrible, all becuase FG is scared.

Imagine not appreciating this amazing performance by Wemby.

#sad

fallguy flip flops more than a pair of sandals in a swirling burst of wind.

Would you rather someone shot only 3s and shot 28% or shot only 2s and shot 41%?

If your thinking was correct, then teams would shoot threes exclusively and no one would take two's.

Unfortunately, threes must be open more than 2's, so it's too hard to jack 20 or 25 threes in a game... This means the 2-point guy has more capacity to dominate because he can shoot far more.

Accordingly, volume is the key to answering your question... I think once the volume gets past a certain point, you want 2's more than threes.

For example, if someone goes 3-10 from three, this isn't so bad and might be better than 4-10 on two's.

Otoh, it destroys a team if someone takes 25 threes at 28%... 7-25 from three in a single game is a verifiably bad game and isn't winning anything.

25 threes from 1 guy is incredibly predictable and exploitable - and 28% means that 18 of 25 times there's a long rebound and run-out... It's called blowout city.. The worst brand of ball ever...

Ultimately, there's a REASON that teams still take more 2's than 3's and always will.. (threes must be open more than 2's).

Btw, it's a verifiable fact that 75% of today's threes are taken either "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender), or "wide open" (6+ feet of room)... Accordingly, imagine trying to get 18 looks for 1 guy that are either open or wide open... It's impractical...

For real Mike has a ton of in-and-outers

I never said any of that and this isn't an all-time run by a young guy.

Duncan, Magic, Russell, Kareem, Kobe and others had far better runs at 22.

And yeah, Kobe's run as a side-kick was pretty good.

I mean he had played 49 playoff games before that season.

But definitely equivalent.

And just based on birthday's, this run is more equivalent to Kobe's 21 year old season.

Here's that run (yikes)...

No... It's because teammates lead him in scoring for various series... So this is Castle's run too - it's a co-run.... He's 22 too....

Heck, at least 22-year Lebron didn't have teammates anywhere near him in scoring, so it was truly his run, albiet in a conference that many guys would've won, including Wemby...

Wemby's run doesn't compare to team carriers like Duncan for example

Wemby getting swept 4-0

so my theory gets busted up in its perfection but it's still valid in general.

i.e. primary ballhandlers generally cannot be the leading scorer for the best basketball (dynasty or dominant title run)

Spurs playing horribly on offense.. They aren't championship caliber

I'm actually watching the game - Wemby sucks

Hakeem, Duncan, Barkley or Jordan would've POSTED UP on that last possession where Wemby threw it away on the baseline right before halftime.. Why not post up right there??? lol this guy's a bum.. 7'5" with zero post game!!!! Another fraud!!!. Enjoy the game guys, but I'm turning this bad basketball off

McLovin - you know what you gotta do, smh

From now on, probably don't listen to Fidstar's advice on the thread title

FG - Knicks win in 6 or less, my theory is out the window. Knicks only win in 7, or lose the series, Wemby must have GOATed it up.

Remember when Jordan played in an important game at age 22?

If not for Dick Bavetta, the one at the end of Game 5 ‘98 changes everything.

I mean David Stern made it clear to the refs that he wanted MJ to win.

Then Shaq/Kobe in the early 2000.

I mean he wasn't wrong.

It all worked.

It would just have been more interesting if the league was fair back then. I mean MJ probably still wins 2 or 3.

Obviously less if he gets a life time ban for gambling on games like he should have.

The theory will always stand because it isn't just backed by statistics - it's bball 101... Ball-dominance = bad and won't produce the best basketball (dynasty)... So it's still 100% valid (dynasty, aka 3 in 5)

How many Finals appearances for Lebron if he isn't allowed to team-up with opposing 1st options and franchise players?... Notice how I'm not asking about WINNING the Finals because we know he would never win with a normal roster since he's 22-29 with super-teams.

As someone who is all in on the wemby hype, OG spotting up, driving on him and dunking on him was the most pathetic thing I’ve ever seen

I’ve never seen a single play remove all aura like that one did

Brunson is clearly on EMPTY.

That's why the Spurs still have a chance if they have belief... They can wear these Knicks down.

Yeah he was totally bodied, and if he can get bullied like that by OG, just imagine what Hakeem, Ewing, Shaq, Robinson and Zo would do..

Wemby benefits from today's format where teammates shoot 30 threes per game to keep the floor spaced, so he can live off rim runs... However, the 3-point strategy and spacing didn't exist in the 80's and 90's, so bigs were forced to bang inside like OG did to Wemby - this is Wemby's weakness - he's a 7'5" guy that can't post..... It's that simple... and he's bad at banging inside (physicality).