Limping 55 and flopping a set: how much to bet?

Hate the river spot, I am sure we are supposed to call. In game vs short stack trying to hit a high hand, in other words he wants to stay in the game as cheaply as possible, I probably find the tough laydown.

I would raise preflop from the CO. Your hand is strong enough. Punish the limper.

Flop and turn seem OK, but I might bet both streets slightly bigger to set up stacks on the river. I am sure you have noticed that many fish bet 10 and 15 on this flop, despite the fact that there is nothing in the middle -- they are less sensitive to pot size than to absolute bet size.

I think river is between calling and shoving (there are peanuts behind) so it may be worth knowing more about the HH. Does aces full qualify? How long is left on the clock? You see some egregious slowplays at $1/$2 during HH promos...

You flopped a set, was action on every street, and the final pot will be less than $100. Just one of the many reasons limping is almost always terrible.

When you flop a set you want to play for stacks. After the limp the bet sizing was so small that you aren’t folding out random 6’s.

As played call the river. But realize the mistake pre set this mess in motion.

Seems like the only hands we beat are A8 and bluffs, no?

I think villain has all possible aces up hands (particularly if aces full qualifies for the HH) plus probably some 87, 54, and random missed FD bluffs. The river bet isn't very big, and adonson's hand doesn't look like much when he limps and bets flop and turn small. If villain is showing up here with some random 6x, he can have a bunch of two pair as well.

I can see the argument for flatting river instead of jamming for the last $40 or whatever, but I think folding a set here is a bridge too far.

I feel I played it badly on all streets. I would raise pre, bet 15 on the flop, make an overbet on the turn. The high rake makes limping far less attractive. AP, now what?

You're betting way too small.

OTF, ask yourself how much would a V call with a FD or Ax? The answer is quite a bit. Throw at least $15 in the pot. Who cares if it is 2x? It's $15. Nobody at $1/$2 is folding A8 here for $15.

Turn, V has like $85 behind? Our sole goal is to get all of it in the middle ASAP. V's range is primarily Ax and heart draws. Make it $30, hopefully he will feel pot committed and just jam his draws.

River: Ok the 6x gets there, that sucks. But V has a bunch of Ax, maybe even A8. You kept it cheap enough that 85 might have come along. You can't fold, V could be desperately stabbing with a missed FD and apparently in this game $25 is considered a big bet. It's a choice between jam or call. I really would have preferred to get the money in earlier and condense V's range a bit.

I'm jamming, you get a bonus in that 32 or 88 might find a fold convincing himself that somehow you have a 6. But its a gross spot because your bets were so small.

Playing small pots in these small games will kill you because the rake is huge when you're playing with $200. Literally everyone in the game will be losing. Rake caps at $60. Your mission is to play as many pots larger than $60 as you can create. That's really hard to do when you limp for $2. Raise it up pre, go to the flop with $40 already in the middle. Then you simply bet $20 and jam turn. If you lost to a 6, you let him get there. Pay the tax so you learn not to do that in the future.

Preflop is fine IMO. Flop is a mistake. They will call over pot in limped pots. Flop has ace and various draws, so someone probably hit it. River, you are probably beat, but easily have pot odds to call. He can have aces up and busted draws. Raising river would be bad.

Preflop you could raise, facing 1 limper and being in late position. I don't mind over limping either but as you see the pot is small postflop and rake is at its most punishing.

Flop id bet $10. Then on the turn you can bet $30ish. As played, river donk is bad news. Could go either way of call or fold, as I think V with A8 and A6 often play it the same way.

River fold is bad, bevause call is prifitable if you win 30% of time and he has missed dtaws and can be value betting worse.

Grunch:

This sounds like a terrible game, and just reading about it makes me want to chuck my laptop out the window.

PRE - yeah, limp, whatever. You could also raise. But this short, at this table, against these V's, whatever.

FLOP - Ehhhh...what are you targeting to call? Is there a range that will call $5 but fold for $10, on this board? What is that range? It seems like our opponents are going to show up and call with a lot of AX or hands that have some sort of draw, so let's target AX and those draws by betting bigger.

TURN - Okay, we're losing to 86, 63, and 32. But on the plus side, we can now target 44, A4, 74, 64, and 54. Why bet $15? Why not $20? Or $30? Again, what hands are calling $15 that won't call for $20 or $30?

RIVER - Yuck.

This is the problem with over-limping and betting small on every street, vs a V who mostly plays fit-or-fold post. What's his range? He has every combo of 2P, sets, and straights, plus missed flush draws and AX that's just monkey-blocking for some godforsaken reason.

That x/c-x/c-donk line isn't usually a bluff, except it might be when he half-pots it, and we actually beat some value here.

I dunno. I might fold and not tell anyone. If he says "good fold" and shows 2P, I'll go lay down in the parking lot and hope someone runs me over.

Results

Hero calls. V shows 67o.

I get that we lost but it would be a disaster if we bet so big that that hand folds flop.