The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance
Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.
FDR was indeed the lefty godsend.
Civil Conservation Corp
Public Works Administration
Social Security
Wagner Act (pro-labor)
Tennessee Valley Authority
Securities & Exchange Commission
FDIC
Fair Labor Standards Act (40 hr workweek and mininum wage)
He used the bully pulpit to great effect. He had the support of the masses.
He won 4 POTUS elections ..... none of which were close.
For sure. That's a list of nice things, many of which we still have and have improved on.
Now is there something that's missing from that list to fully suffice you or was it mostly just the worker protections and preventing banks form collapsing that you're after?
Obama acknowledged that he was equivalent to an 80's moderate Republican.
We have two right wing parties. to choose from.
AMA: One issue that Cuban-Americans are worried about is, they believe that you favor a socialist model for our country. Cubans and Venezuelans especially because of what they have gone through. What do you think of that?
PBO: I don’t know that there are a lot of Cubans or Venezuelans, Americans who believe that. The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican. I mean, what I believe in is a tax system that is fair. I don’t think government can solve every problem. I think that we should make sure that we’re helping young people go to school. We should make sure that our government is building good roads and bridges and hospitals and airports so that we have a good infrastructure. I do believe that it makes sense that everyone in America, as rich as this country is, shouldn’t go bankrupt because someone gets sick, so the things I believe in are essentially the same things your viewers believe in.
He didn’t admit anything, he used a classic Obama rhetorical flourish to underscore the point he wasn’t a socialist. So what? Most Americans are not socialist or want a socialist government.
In any case, Obama doesn’t dictate the party. He is very influential, but showing that Obama, someone who holds no official position in the party, is more right wing than you would like doesn’t mean “we have two right parties”. The Dems have actually gone to the left of Obama-era Democrats on many points, often I believe to their detriment.
But let’s say I grant you we have two right wing parties, what follows from that? Should we then pick the worse of the two right-wing parties? Is right-wing even a bad thing when it means that both the Dems and the Republicans can both be labelled right-wing? Is there not even a difference between Mitt Romney and Nick Fuentes, two people on the right? So as soon as a far lefty labels you right-wing that means he has proven you are unworthy of a vote? Give me a break.
Gotta love ''the Dems are bad temper tantrum so fk you all and Trump isn't that much different'' and conservatives and dems are the same party.MAGA and conservatives are actively trying to remove every environmental protection policy there is, while dems as fkd up as they are , aren't.You can say choose your own poison, but coming from the climate moral chief in place , Nut Nut
this made me remember the Green New Deal which was good for a chuckle.
the green new dream or whatever (lol)
and hey, remember "the public option"? whatever that is. had 100% party support apparently, so i'm sure something happened there...
and hows that minimum wage?
old senile brandon accidentally gave the game away; dems are the nothing will change (for the better) party. thats how this works
Who knows, but FDR wasn't exactly the lefty godsend. He was more pro cap and pro business and markets than Bernie or Mamdani and was way more socially conservative - although the time was certainly different. Most certainly he was against forced labor. If the man spawned up today and took over the Democratic party, many lefties would be bitchin just the same and call him Obam
Yeah FDR WAS heavily criticized by the left wing of his party during his presidency. And if we’re going to pretend like Obama is a conservative you can make the exact same arguments against FDR for not pushing to end segregation ,which he personally knew was wrong, because he was too concerned about keeping white southerners in his coalition.
old senile brandon accidentally gave the game away; dems are the nothing will change (for the better) party. thats how this works
Lol you realize he is saying that if we have policies that are better for the poor and middle class, that rich people would still enjoy a very high quality of life and standard of living right? it’s almost the opposite of what you’re representing it to be.
"no one's standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change"
shitlibs: this is basically fdr
"no one's standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change"
shitlibs: this is basically fdr
Brought to you by the people who say “abolish the police” actually has a lot of nuance and doesn’t mean murders, rapists, and child abusing pedophiles would go free. Yet they can’t understand the pretty obvious implication that he was talking about the rich people that were in the room.
Anyway you probably would have hated FDR too, and MLK Jr, and anyone else that actually made a positive impact on society.
Look at some of Lincoln’s economic writings. The guy that ended slavery in the US was probably not someone you’d support either. No one is good enough for lefties. That’s why you guys are a cancer to yourself and any political party that you populate.
rich people that were in the room
those are the murderers rapists and pedophiles
the police
them too
Brought to you by the people who say “abolish the police” actually has a lot of nuance and doesn’t mean murders, rapists, and child abusing pedophiles would go free.
brought to you by the people who say defund the police means “abolish the police” = murders, rapists, and child abusing pedophiles would go free
Yet they can’t understand the pretty obvious implication that he was talking about the rich people that were in the room.
and he told them that they won't lose any money and nothing would change. whats your point?
brought to you by the people who say defund the police means “abolish the police” = murders, rapists, and child abusing pedophiles would go free
right, abolish the police as an ask and slogan didn’t happen. I’m sure victor will be happy to vouch for keeping around police officers as well.
by the way, do you think there’s a reason that nearly every single city that attempted to cut funding for police eventually reinstated it? you still think it was a good idea to reduce police funding in the middle of a crime wave spurned on by a pandemic? lol
and he told them that they won't lose any money and nothing would change. whats your point?
are you under the belief that actually, going from a billionaire to a hundred billionaire represents a really dramatic increase in living standards for the billionaire? or going from 100 million to 200 million?
the green new dream or whatever (lol)
and hey, remember "the public option"? whatever that is. had 100% party support apparently, so i'm sure something happened there...
and hows that minimum wage?
Maybe as many as 2% of politicians in either party give a whit about their constituents.
#RIPUSA
You’re a ****ing moron.
The riot was targeted at the election because the sitting president lost said election and stoked his supporters to the point of a violent attack. Congress became the target because of its role in confirming the election process.
The attack combined with the president's reluctance to order intervention meant that fending off the attack came mostly down to undermanned security details and law enforcement doing their best and sheer luck. Read for example the details of Pence's secret service detail on how he almost did not escape (bonus points for the rather chilling details of how a lot of information on this was deleted afterwards and some agents retained their own counsel, which raises some extremely pertinent questions).
Had the attack not been averted, the president's response is anyone's guess. My guess is that in such a scenario, your country would have been subjected to a coup. Given that president Trump had a significant portion of congress (albeit a minority) convinced to vote against the proceedings, it is quite possible you would have ended in a crisis with two groups both claiming to be the legitimate congress. A scenario so dangerous, that it is even far beyond constitutional crisis.
Using language that portrays it as some kind of broad representation of the public rising up against government is spectacularly dishonest. The attack specifically aimed to set aside the vote of the people.
The riot was targeted at the election because the sitting president lost said election and stoked his supporters to the point of a violent attack. Congress became the target because of its role in confirming the election process.The attack combined with the president's reluctance to order intervention meant that fending off the attack came mostly down to undermanned security de
Correct.
t_d is entirely correct. It is ludicrous to interpret January 6 as a spasmodic expression of violence that occurred because people were frustrated with Congress's failure to improve their lives. No matter how frustrated people were with Congress, and no matter how justified or unjustified that frustration might be, it simply wasn't the reason that January 6 occurred.
Obama has given NUMEROUS quotes where he said something to that effect, one of which was quoted by Nut Nut, although I see that checkraisdraw moronically dismissed that as "rhetoric". There was another one where somebody said, "somebody I know describes you as a kind of Reagan Republican", and Obama said something like, "I certainly understand that". It may have been Thomas Friedman. I don't feel like searching deeply for it, as it's well-known by everybody who is politically aware that Obama has an obvious and clear respect for conservative economic ideology and policies, although, of course, he does somewhat prefer the largely similar Democratic economic platform. He's well-known as one of those weirdos who long for a "strong, responsible Republican Party", as "every plane needs two wings", which I believe is one of Friedman's many idiotic analogies.
Jan 6th occurred because a bunch of QAnon psychos and other cranks wanted to cosplay "The Storm" during which Democrats would be rounded up and executed for mass pedophilia and other crimes. Don't take my word for it, listen to what all of the Ashley Babbitts of that day outright stated. They're not shy about telling people what they believe.
The facts that: 1. these people are obviously completely consumed by the kind of paranoid and conspiratorial thinking which was directly stoked by the very media they consume; and 2. they didn't get anywhere remotely close to instituting anything they wanted, is what makes Jan 6th a very cool and entertaining event that should be remembered fondly as one of the funniest days in recent American history.
