Do you have to say "check" or knock the table at the end if last to act?

Also hopefully so you don't accidentally angle shoot them showing their hand

that's never happened, but i can see where you're coming from and understand how someone could believe that means call or fold

No it isn't. Tournaments are different than cash games specifically because players not in the hand are also affected by the outcome of every hand.

The funny thing is that exposing your hand to get a read can sometimes be worth it. I've never done it and wouldn't ever do it, but in a monster pot it would clearly be worth doing because the penalty is so minor (missing the next 3 hands). I beat a guy many years ago in a huge pot and he said after the hand that he should have turned his hand over. At that time he would have been penalized 10 hands and roughly one third of the level, but then so what? He would have lost basically 2 and 1/2 blinds and potentially with a read on me, saved a huge amount of chips.

Wrong and

Wrong

lol people above just said it's true.

And i'm not wrong about Fore. He's a stick in the mud you can tell. Kinda guy that bursts out greetin when he gets a floater in his volvic.

well...

when he turns his hand over it's as if he knocked the table (checked) hand is over

They don't specify whether action is allowed or not, but the hand is not dead. I'd expect action to be on the player who exposed their hand, with a warning at minimum.

[QUOTE=TDA]
68: Exposing Cards and Proper Folding
Exposing cards with action pending, including the current player when last to act, may result in a penalty but not a dead hand. Any penalty begins at the end of the hand. When folding, cards should be pushed forward low to the table, not deliberately exposed or tossed high (“helicoptered”😉. See Rule 66.[/QUOTE]

The hand isn't dead it's being tabled, i.e. a check.

A lot of people is literally 1 post other than you.

A lot of people say it doesn’t make sense. A lot of people say it is frequently done and assumed it is a check. But several saying this also say, betting or raising still allowed.

I agree it doesn’t make strategic sense generally. There is a high hand situation where, if allowed, it makes sense. But being smart move isn’t a rules question.

As to your opinion of me, I literally could not care less. I am who I am and completely comfortable in my own skin. You, OTOH, are highly motivated by externally opinions of you. A true sign of immaturity

Actually my read is that “action pending” and “including current player when last to act”, pretty clearly allows the last to act a chanceto act.

Very interesting yet inaccurate interpretation.

“Including current player when last to act” does not mean check. Last to act seems to indicate they have action. If it was a check, then it would not be premature exposure as you are encouraged to table your hand quickly at showdown.

Literally the rule is about premature exposing hand and clearly gives last to act their action.

backstairs asks if exposing is legal in tournaments. I show him the actual rule where it says it is, but is subject to warning/penalty, so it won't be dead. He then claims that makes it a check.

backstairs, you are a terrible poster and a nitwit.

What? If he turns over his hand then he's tabling it and now he's entered the cardspeak space.

It's a check, what else would it be? Waving them around looking for a reaction? Glue it face up to your forehead and walk around looking for a reaction? Shall I check, shall I,, haven't checked yet, eh eh eh eh eh?? what am I gonna do, am a bit wee am a bit whoo, should I check, haven't acted yet.

That is correct, you ****ing idiot. A prematurely exposed hand is just that--a hand which has been exposed, but not acted upon. The dealer should clarify intent, and call the floor to see if a penalty is in order.

But what if he flips both cards on their backs proudly showing the table? The same way he might do had he said the word check or knocked.. but didn't.

You are liking your own posts?

Thank you for intervening, I'm not too bothered about the personal attacks towards me as it's all in good fun a bit jesty, bit like trash talk tuesday at the tables :-).

Let's all just calm down and talk sensibly.

thanks

You are wrong. You have a real reading comprehension issue.

Cards speak is showndown until action closes we are not at showdown.

Just read the rule. It is very clear it is not a check and thus not showdown.

The title of this thread was talking about showdown I think you'll find.

Man, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I can't find "showdown" anywhere in the title.

No, the title question was whether exposing your cards when last to act BEFORE showdown is automatically a check. IOW, does exposing your cards automatically cause the hand to enter showdown. Others have answered that - no it doesn’t. You theoretically can expose your cards and then bet, but I’m not sure why you would ever want to do that.

Everywhere I’ve played, the dealer will assume you are checking if you do that, but presumably if you spike up and said you wanted to bet after exposing, you would be allowed to do so (especially since you have gained no advantage by exposing).

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it was about showdown, didn't contain the word showdown.