Mason Malmuth's Thoughts on COVID vaccines (Warning: O/t thread)
Since the Haxton thread was so conveniently locked, and this was the last comment, I just wanted to draw attention to i
LOL. My post is AI because you say it it. Vaccines are bad because you say they are. Reality is what you say it it. I understand the level of mind I am dealing with here.
where did i say anything anti-vax, wtf is wrong with you?
you got called out so you're attaching political motives? jfc dude this is sad
how stupid do you think everyone is? literally nobody is reading that perfect grammar full of em dashes and thinks oh yes, he painstakingly
i used to write for a living, i know what i'm talking about
these are all things normal humans don't use but ai uses all the time:
contrastive antithesis ("not X, but Y") - "you're not a troll. you actually believe that you are saying smart things"
tricolon with anaphora - "without evidence, without any kind of medical or scientific review, and without any expectation that any supporting evidence at all is required"
sentence-initial pathos adverbs - "Sadly, the inescapable truth is..." and "Tragically, however, you clearly believe..."
formulaic intensifier phrases - "the inescapable truth is that" / "tells us everything we need to know"
summarize-then-demolish - "Your entire argument is that governments and industry conspired to lie to you and trick you"
chiasmus / keyword mirror - "what makes you stupid is that you fail to understand your own stupidity"
mid-sentence concession clause - "which even you acknowledge you cannot definitively conclude were the result of the vaccine"
register clash (condescension plus therapy-speak) - "research the Dunning-Kruger effect and then spend some time in quiet contemplation"
essayistic tidiness - every paragraph is one clean argumentative beat, no fragments, no mess
em dashes - no human on earth hits the 5 key combo to make an em dash instead of just using a hyphen
i realize this is embarssing for you, but doubling down on this is not going to make this go the way you want to go, it only furthers the degree to which i'm going to publicly ridicule you
you came in hot firing personal attacks, questioning someone's intelligence level, but didn't even have the courage to write it out yourself, you are pathetic - that's why i jumped in
i'm pro vax, just anti pretentious douchebag
I don't believe anything you say about yourself either, but he did clearly use AI. Eventually it will become indistinguishable from human writing and people here will be mere vehicles for different AIs arguing with each other.
Has Mason ever been right about anything?
Speaking of AI, this is what Grok tells me about Pharma profit from vaccines over the years. I'm sure the proliferation of shots has nothing to do with profit though and it's 100% for our own well-being -->
Global Vaccine Market Size Trends (Revenues/Sales)1970s-1990s: Very small market. Vaccines were not a major profit driver; many companies exited due to low margins, liability concerns, and smaller markets vs. chronic drugs. Global market likely in the low billions (USD) or less. Pediatric and basic vaccines (e.g., DTP, polio) dominated, often via public procurement at low prices.
healthaffairs.org
Early 2000s: Around $5-10 billion (estimates vary). Growth from new products and better pricing.
~2005: Roughly $10-15 billion (projected growth trajectories in later reports).
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
2013-2014: ~$25-27 billion. Top companies (GSK, Merck, Sanofi, Pfizer) held ~85% of revenue.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Pre-COVID (late 2010s): ~$30-40 billion (growing steadily with HPV, pneumococcal, etc.).
2020-2022 (COVID peak): Surged dramatically. Total vaccine revenues (incl. COVID) reached ~$80-100+ billion in peak years. COVID vaccines alone generated tens of billions (e.g., Pfizer/BioNTech ~$37B+ in 2021).
statista.com
2024-2025: ~$65-90 billion (varying estimates; WHO 2024: ~$66.5 billion total financial value, down from 2023 due to lower COVID sales). Ex-COVID markets are ~$50-70 billion and growing.
these are all things normal humans don't use but ai uses all the time:contrastive antithesis ("not X, but Y") - "you're not a troll. you actually believe that you are saying smart things"tricolon with anaphora - "without evidence, without any kind of medical or scientific review, and without any expectation that any supporting evidence at all is required"sentence-initial pathos
I might not be a normal human and English isnt my native language but I feel I use all of them quite a bit with only the exception of the last two.
My paragraphs go on tangents regularly and I think the cleanliness of them has been questionable as well. Its also the first time I ever heard of an Em dash...
But surely all the "figure-of-speeches" above are pretty normal human talk and dont just scream AI right? "sadly, the inescapable truth..." etc feels like dressing up your arguments nicely. Maybe I watch too much British TV where eloquence is celebrated and this is basically how David Mitchell speaks all the time... Also im 100% sure he knows what an Em dash is and will hit that 5 key combo when needed :p
Speaking of AI, this is what Grok tells me about Pharma profit from vaccines over the years.
You needed AI to tell you that Pharma profited more from vaccines during the vaccination period?
I wondered earlier in the thread whether you were merely a troll or are actually this stupid. Or both. Sadly, the inescapable truth is that you are actually just this stupid.Your alleged post-vaccine health issues—which even you acknowledge you cannot definitively conclude were the result of the vaccine—and the similar wholly unverified stories of so many anti-vaxxers, are not
Whoa dude call me stupid a few more times to make yourself feel superior. How long did it take you to type all of that out? I'm not reading it.
This is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. People who are homeless may experience 60-70% higher rates of cardiovascular events, such as heart attacks, strokes and heart failure, compared to the general population, according to a study cited in “The Importance of Housing and Cardiovascular Health and Well-Being,” a new Scientific Statement from the American Heart Association p
Being homeless obviously has nothing to do with my heart issues. Correlation does not equal causation obviously. And there are correlating factors with homeless that cause those higher rates of cardiovascular events namely drug use.
Yes smoking cannabis is bad for your heart health. I've smoked a lot of weed and that has contributed negatively to my heart health possibly even causing my heart attack. I acknowledge that and thank you for bringing that to my attention.
I don't blame it on the solely on the jab but I don't think it's far fetched to say the jab caused some damage. I only wish the pro-vax side was reasonable and would at least admit injecting a bunch of spike protein for your body to practice on will cause harm. But that the protection gained outweighs the harm caused. Say that. Instead we get vaccine zealots shouting down anyone questioning or claiming anything negative about the vaccine. It's zealotry and close mindedness honestly.
"I know that correlation doesn't equal causation, OBVIOUSLY. I'm not an idiot. I just sort of feel like it does in this instance, because reasons. I've verified this by thinking about it independently."
"I know that correlation doesn't equal causation, OBVIOUSLY. I'm not an idiot. I just sort of feel like it does in this instance, because reasons. I've verified this by thinking about it independently."
It's even worse. Correlation doesn't prove causation but I'm going to go ahead with causation for reasons in this case when I don't even have solid correlation.
You needed AI to tell you that Pharma profited more from vaccines during the vaccination period?
My theory is noise about vaccination programs is directly correlated to profit from it.
Clearly the growth had started before covid.
And it's not just vaccines. There has been a push to put folks on medication against high blood pressure and cholesterol. What is considered high blood pressure has been lowered over the years.
That's certainly a problem for contrarians like me. I've developed such strong suspicion against the medical establishment and pharma that I could miss out on taking an actual needed treatment down the line.
No, it isn't. Especially when the vaccine first came out, when the versions of Covid out there were much deadlier than the versions typically infecting people today. Again, this isn't fact, it is still your opinion. And I believe this opinion is wrong.
RFK Jr has clearly stated that the death rate from all causes of those who took the vaccine went up. At lest that's what I ha
Remind what RFK's medical/science background is, please.
And it's not just vaccines. There has been a push to put folks on medication against high blood pressure and cholesterol. What is considered high blood pressure has been lowered over the years.
Have you considered that the change in what is considered high blood pressure is due to advances in medical science and not a nefarious plot to make more monies?
RFK Jr has clearly stated that the death rate from all causes of those who took the vaccine went up. At lest that's what I have read. But he's a member of the Trump administration, so I'm sure that drives you crazy.
RFK is a mother****ing quack, that is what drives me crazy. And it should drive you crazy, too. But apparently it doesn’t. That’s bizarre.
Are you such a brainwashed fool that you think RFK Jr must NOT be a mother****ing quack simply since he’s part of the Trump administration?
Trump is a severely damaged human being who should never have been given the power of the presidency. You made a terrible decision in voting for him. As such, you need to reevaluate your vetting process.
Trump latest pics on truth social turning the white house to his MMA arena is idiocracy levels
RFK is a mother****ing quack, that is what drives me crazy. And it should drive you crazy, too. But apparently it doesn’t. That’s bizarre.Are you such a brainwashed fool that you think RFK Jr must NOT be a mother****ing quack simply since he’s part of the Trump administration? Trump is a severely damaged human being who should never have been given the power of the presiden
Trump is your President though, sorry bud.
damn chip that really sucks about your heart. good news is you can strengthen it back up to a certain point with good habits.
also, i vividly remember the beginning of covid. there were several otherwise healthy 2p2'ers posting similar symptoms like staying up all night feeling like their lungs were filled with broken glass, wondering if they would wake up the next day.
we're all probabilistic thinkers here. i would take on more undetermined heart damage to not face a real possibility of respiratory depression.
but to each their own. rooting for you at the wsop chip wynn.
Trump is a severely damaged human being who should never have been given the power of the presidency. You made a terrible decision in voting for him. As such, you need to reevaluate your vetting process.
Whoa whoa... You are talking about a man who owns a FIFA Peace Prize and a Nobel Peace Prize (which he so gracefully accepted from Machado with zero pressure or self-entitlement at all)
No way possible this man is a bad egg 🙂
where did i say anything anti-vax, wtf is wrong with you?you got called out so you're attaching political motives? jfc dude this is sadhow stupid do you think everyone is? literally nobody is reading that perfect grammar full of em dashes and thinks oh yes, he painstakinglyi used to write for a living, i know what i'm talking aboutthese are all things normal humans don't use bu
"how stupid do you think everyone is?"
I don't think *everyone* is stupid. Just Chip Wynn and, increasingly you.
"you got called out so you're attaching political motives? jfc dude this is sad"
I'm seeing that you actually believe that your baseless brayings represent a calling-out. They do not. You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. You are obfuscating because you have no response to the the hammering that you and your fellow anti-vaxxers have taken in this thread.
"i used to write for a living, i know what i'm talking about"
You categorically did not used to write for a living. You are lying. Reviewing your contributions on the rest of this site, you appear to live with your parents in Maine, to offer advice to the lovelorn who you see as less competitive than you in the dating marketplace, to have an odd fixation with shoeware, to visit prostitutes, and to have some really retrograde ideas about women in general. Given all that, I suppose there's at least some possibility that you once made your living as a writer of sexual-fetish erotica.
"i realize this is embarssing for you, but doubling down on this is not going to make this go the way you want to go, it only furthers the degree to which i'm going to publicly ridicule you"
I suspect that you meant "embarrassing," which has two "r"s and then an "a", Mr. Former Professional Writer, but please know that there is nothing that a man who pays women for sex, mooches off his parents, and resides in a MAGA cult can possibly do to embarrass me. What you perceive as ridiculing me is actually quite entertaining for me, and I warmly encourage you to keep going.
lol, not one of those things is accurate, and the fact you're now making up things about me speaks for itself
and you oddly keep doubling down on the belief i'm an anti-vaxxer or a trumper... jfc man this is sad, i'm a fully vaxxed liberal you tard
lol, not one of those things is accurate, and the fact you're now making up things about me speaks for itself
and you oddly keep doubling down on the belief i'm an anti-vaxxer or a trumper... jfc man this is sad, i'm a fully vaxxed liberal you tard
My assumption is that you learned the “tard” epithet from your parents up in northern Maine. I think we can all agree that everyone would be better off if you finally moved out and, at last, made your own way on your own two feet.
it's funny with all your stalking and lies you're not even getting your geography correct
I blame these inaccuracies on the AI I’ve been using to craft all my posts. I’d appreciate any suggestions you may have for more accurate artificial intelligence options.
In any case, if it’s actually central
Maine where you live, or perhaps southern Maine, the point remains: Moving out of your parents’ basement and finding a residence all your own won’t just allow you to begin maturing into an actual adult…it will also provide you with significantly more privacy for consorting with the prostitutes that you bring home, and significantly more space for your shoeware collection.
As these exchanges have proven, you’re on the intractable side, but at least consider the possibilities.
