A2s in the CO vs. Station and Loose Passive

Easy call pre and fold to a 3! from a passive. A raise is spew and a fold is too nitty.

Think you have to fold. Raise is big, rake is high, stacks are not deep, and the hand sucks unless you make the nuts.

This. But proceed with caution, this is the type of hand that draw us into a big loss. OTOH it could create a big win.

Hand continues

V1 in LJ opens 10. V2 in HJ calls. Hero in CO with Ah2h. Hero? Hero calls. BB calls. Four-way.

Flop (35): JhThKc

BB checks. V1 bets 15. V2 calls. Hero?

Call the flop. Raising would be really bad. You have a combo draw with a lot of outs to the nuts, but this is an extreme action flop with 3 broadway cards. I would usually just call the turn and fold the river unimproved.

call

Preflop and flop are not interesting. Folding preflop is also reasonable.

Not planning on doing any betting or raising unimproved. If you make a straight, it will often be a chop. If there is a bet and raise on the turn and you haven't improved, then you might have a decision. If you improve, you may have decisions. So far, easy hand to play.

Call preflop and the flop?

I would also call the flop. You don’t want to make one of the fish fold 76hh. The PFR has all the big hands too, although the small flop bet may be an indicator that he has one pair.

I think he mwnt flop. Preflop has been discussed. It is a 1/2 game, so there may be other callers and it won't be 3! much, which is good for calling. It is also shallow in a 1/2 game, which is not good. You have a blocker to 3!,so this hand is often a 3! in high stakes tournaments when opponents usually 4! or fold, but the hand has poor playability, so 3-betting is probably bad in this game. Folding preflop may be a little better.

Preflop and flop are not that interesting. What happened on the turn?

Call the turn. Raising would be bad. They can easily have something big on this board. On the turn, your draw is much weaker and you would generally have to fold to a 3!

I would just fold or check/back the river unimproved. Bad board to bluff on.

Picked up a couple more outs on the turn and I would be ready to shove, except ‘pathological need to see opponent’s hand’ lessens fold equity. I do think villain(s) should have a hard time calling a jam, because they will likely think their piece of the board is not good enough. Still, I would hate getting called by QJ

However, it seems like a very good price to call in position and see what it looks like when it gets back to you.

With these reads, seems like a very straightforward call.

I wouldn't hate a 3B, if only to put pressure on the BTN to fold. The downside is that it also puts pressure on the blinds to fold, and with A2s, we're just hoping to flush-over-flush someone, so we'd like to see more people in the pot.

The other downsides: A) it's very unlikely V1 is folding if he has a limping range and calls 3B's (I assume wide, since you mention it); B) V2 could be sand-bagging, and will possibly back-raise, and otherwise probably isn't folding, if he has no 3B's; C) we're torching if BTN or the blinds wake up with a monster and 4B us; D) BTN and the blinds might cold-call the 3B, resulting in a bloated multi-way pot we'll be playing with ace-rag, or V1 or V2 4B'ing, forcing us to fold a hand that really wants to see a flop.

I don't see any reason to do anything other than call.

Hmmm...I was instantly certain we should just flat call, but then I started thinking a case can be made to raise.

I don't think either of our opponents has AQ with this action. I don't think any other hand that would be bet for value feels super-comfortable that they're best, and would feel less comfortable if we raised. We could have AQ that wants to get more money in the pot before an action-killing river.

Even if we make our hand on the river, I'm not sure we get paid, when we see our opponents pot-controlling.

It's uncomfortable to turn our hand into a semi-bluff facing two opponents, but they have $200-$225 left, and the pot is $125 getting to us. I think I might just rip it in and live with the results.

*Grunch*

I wish they were a little deeper with us b/c I would then definitely 3b pre to 45 and iso.

AP at your typical passive 1/2 game at this stack depth flatting preflop with a suited ace when you likely will be last to act and not face a potential squeeze is perfectly fine.

When we flop the NFD (and gutter to nut straight) and face a 40% bet multiway IP this is going to be a pure call pretty much always. Villain dependent you could start to think about bluffing them off an AK type holding but when we raise and they continue we are a big dog.

The whole hand

V1 in LJ opens 10. V2 in HJ calls. Hero in CO with Ah2h. Hero? Hero calls. BB calls. Four-way.

Flop (35): JhThKc

BB checks. V1 bets 15. V2 calls. Hero? Hero calls.

Turn (75): 2d

V1 bets 25. V2 calls. Hero? Hero calls.

River (150): 9

V1 checks. V2 bet 75. Hero folds. V1 smiles, calls, and shows Kh9h. V2 shows KdQh.

So, yeah, I was right. Judging by the action, neither of them was nutted. I think a turn jam gets through a lot, and even when it doesn't, we have decent equity.

It's scary to think about trying to make them fold those hands, but our focus should be on how they're playing as much as what they might be holding. They're playing scared, and we can exploit that, especially when we have a TAG image.

i highly doubt KQ or two pair are going to fold to a turn raise and those are all within their ranges. might even call a turn shove. i dont see what else you could have done.

of course that means that when yourself have the nuts here, you should shove turn.

Regardless of what they may or may not have in their range, neither V's action makes it seem like they want to play for all the money, which makes it more likely a jam gets through.

Hero's specific hand was around a 26% underdog against V with KdQh. K9hh was drawing dead. If we jam for $250 into $125, the pot will be $375, and V with KQ will have to call off another $225.

In order for him to call, V will have to think he's ahead 60% of the time. With 26% equity, we only need him to fold around 40% of the time for our jam to break even.

If both V's call, the pot will be $800, and we'll be getting 3.2 to 1 on our $250 jam, which is more than enough pot odds when we have 26% equity.

It may seem like V with KQo is unlikely to fold, but if he wanted to play for all the money, he could have raised. If K9hh wanted to play for it all, he could have bet bigger.

We don't need to know what two hands they have. If we assume we need to make our straight or a flush to win, and think we just have 10 outs, we have around 22% equity. It's not hard to see that we don't need them to fold all that often for a jam to be profitable.

When we'll be getting 3.2 to 1 if they both call, they only need to fold around 9% of the time to break even. Any more than that and we auto-profit.

When the one V is betting small, and the other is just flat calling, on this board, it seems reasonable to think our jam will get through at least 9% of the time.