AQo on TT7 in 3! pot
1/3 NL, LJ has about 500, CO about 800 and hero about 400. Reads are LJ is a fish, CO is tricky sort of aggressive sometimes trappy south Asian, CO tends to raise small, but usually not this small, will sometimes overlimp. CO raises more than most at the table, which was partly why hero 3!, along with hand strength. Not sure if I should be 3-betting good players, but the fish tend to only raise premium hands, so can't 3! them light.
LJ limps, CO raises to 12, hero in SB, hero in SB 3! to 50 with AsQc, both villains call. Flop (145) TsTh7c. What is hero's play and plan?
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Both villains call is troubling
Against one opponent, I probably cBet even OOP, but I’m checking flop against two.
It’s interesting, because yesterday I played with a guy that bet everytime there was a pair on the flop, and everyone would fold. I planned on giving this more thought as an exploit.
As far as your plan
It’s wait and see what villain(s) do.
I think you 3bet too big, so that only better hands likely call and you face two opponents that did call.
Maybe it’s too nitty to fold, but to blow up the pot with this weak hand is a mistake. The raise or fold philosophy from the sb is probably a fold in this spot. Now you have a very weak hand that missed everything. It’s hard enough to play QQ in the worst position, not looking forward to the rest of this hand.
It’s hard to hit this board, so maybe there’s not too much pressure coming. I would like to see the turn, so it depends on what kinda price villain gives us. I would not rule-out a check-raise bluff if I thought that they would fold. I think we’ll have a better idea how to proceed when the action gets back to us.
Folds to fishy LJ who just limps, and then he cold calls 47 more with trappy Asian still behind him? Doesn’t sound like 22-55 or SSC to me. He certainly has 66-88 and every conceivable suited ten here; smaller suited aces, KQJs.
You’re repping AA-QQ preflop… I think a xr would look mighty suspicious to 99? BWDIK, it’s just another preflop fold in the blinds to me.
Raise more pre against these calling stations.
Just check flop. Don’t bluff stations. Oop multiway. I’m folding to most bets.
I am not tight enough to fold AQ to a limp and smallish late position raise. I thought flat call might have been better, rather than build the pot OOP against a decent player.
I agree limp/caller could have a pp, but might be bad enough to call with something else. Might be passive enough to have something like my hand AQ. Raiser's small raise and call of 3! also looks like maybe a pp, maybe 66-99. Think it is a difficult flop to represent on, because QQ+ might be scared of a T. So maybe this is check and usually give up.
Preflop is fine.
Probably check-fold is best here. You will have to risk a lot to get hands like 88-99 to fold and otherwise you have to hope that you are up against one small pocket pair and one hand you beat. It may check around, you may hit top pair on the turn. Just seems against two players including a fish, OOP in a 3bet pot where your opponents are both more likely to have a Ten than you and may not fold a pair, that there are better spots to be bluffing especially when you may get to see a free turn card.
The small raise (and call) from CO doesn't scream strength but on TT7 that doesn't mean a great deal any more.
If hero checks, V1 checks, and V2 makes a tiny bet while smiling, then I would consider the hand a bluffing spot and check raise. But with AQo, hero is toast against the preflop 3bet calling ranges of V2, and I would fold to his large bet.
Agreeing with Mox here. SPR is 2.5 ish on the flop as you've 350 back, so any stab by them is going to be done knowing you might shove over it. If you had a T, leading b10/b20 might induce shenanigans. They're going to expect you to check with a T though, and be in the blender with the AA-JJ part of your range.
I can easily see this check through. My plan is probably x-fold. Live reads might get me to deviate, by calling small, and perhaps jamming turn.
against two people id just check flop and give up. tbh i think you should be checking your entire range here.
With non-short stacks, I would actually be tempted to just flat preflop to bring along the fish, which will also keep the CO from getting too out-of-line postflop (which is very helpful for us being OOP and non-short).
I'm probably just check/folding 3ways OOP with a fish involved who is protecting the pot. Might be an argument for betting the turn small UI if it checks thru to protect a possibly best hand.
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