A2s OTB vs loose passives
1/2 rake/promo/tip 6+3+2. Loose passive table. Stacks are 120-450.
V1 (140) open limps UTG. V2 (230) in LJ and V3 (450) in CO call. Hero (covers) with Ah2h OTB. Hero?
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Just flat call, or raise to an obnoxiously large size that forces them to fold everything that isn't AA/KK. You need to make it at least $25, if not $30.
It's 1/2. UTG isn't limping to limp-fold to a normal size raise. If you pop it to $15-$20, you're still going multi-way, you'll just be going multi-way with a bloated pot and lower SPR, facing umpteen V's with ranges wider than my mother-in-law's behind.
Call. What I'm trying to do is cooler them with a flush not cooler myself on Axx. If you think raising big might take it down often then go for it.
Limping behind is way the better play here. I know there are some people who always want to play aggressive.
V1 (140) open limps UTG. V2 (230) in LJ and V3 (450) in CO call. Hero (covers) with Ah2h OTB. Hero calls. Blinds call. Six-way.
Flop (10): 2cQh4s
Five Vs check. Hero checks.
Turn: Kd
Vs check. Hero checks.
River: Jd
Vs check. Hero?
Forget pot odds; the sheer triviality of the pot size will mean nobody will want to let you get away with a cheap bluff. The turn could have brought much promise; it didn't. Shrug and move on.
I hate it when I’m in there with 5 people checking it down to the river - like I wanna say ‘hey, you guys wanna chop’
In your spot, I definitely bet pot on my flopped pair of twos. You only hit the board 1/3 of the time. So, I guess it would have been a different ball game.
Lots of options with that hand on the button
I might raise a bunch of loose passives pre-flop. Definitely want to find some aggression against these folks.
Against a bunch of limpers from the button, I’m planning on winning this hand.
As played, too late to bet now.
V1 (140) open limps UTG. V2 (230) in LJ and V3 (450) in CO call. Hero (covers) with Ah2h OTB. Hero calls. Blinds call. Six-way.
Flop (10): 2cQh4s
Five Vs check. Hero checks.
Turn: Kd
Vs check. Hero checks.
River: Jd
Vs check. Hero?
If you're fairly to really good at quickly reading opponents in-hand, you can bet super-small on the flop, and then size way up on the turn.
I've done this. It works when it's clear that no one has a very strong hand and the table is mostly surrendering to our aggression. It helps when our image is solid.
I usually do it as a bluff with air. I might do it with bottom pair. But honestly, when there's only $10 in the pot I might just check it down and not really care if we win or lose.
Yeah I'm fine with checking it down in a typical game. They let you draw for free, which was a win.
Nice hand.
The flop would be the most reasonable street to bet, but I think check is much better. They aren't going to fold better hands to one bet and you really want to let AJo hit an Ace on the turn.
When the turn makes it QK, it isn't good to bluff at. There are some situation where you can bluff the turn with the option to barrel the river. I like to try to steal checked down limp or raised multiway pots, but not here.
Surprising, but not shocking your deuces were good on QKJ.
Does V1 tend to limp raise? If yes, obv overlimp. If no, overlimping is still fine, but can raise sometimes too.
I don't see how you get a good result by raising. You might build the pot multiway, which reduces your implied odds when you make the nuts. You might get it HU or 3-ways and then you have position and initiative, but you probably have an inferior hand with poor playability. If you take the pot preflop, that is good. If you get cold 3! from the blinds or limp/3!, then you have to fold.
