the pot is too big for my hand

Don't limp pf unless you are sure it is going to be limped around with A5. I'd rather raise with it pf. As played, a call in ok to the raise. You missed the flop and others are calling the raise. Fold.

A5s is not going to flop a connected board often enough to justify the 5BB pre call. I prefer to raise with it in position so I have the initiative. OOP, I would limp with it only if the table usually allowed limp arounds. I fold pre to the bet.

AP, I fold vs the flop bet. You could be behind any calling hands which in this case is every last pocket pair except 22. They either have an overpair or a set, or 4 to a straight with 22.

If you call, you are hoping for another 5 and not much else. If a 2 comes, you've got the idiot end and have to hope it checks down. 2P with am A probably gives someone a straight or at least the ability to rep one. All other cards are problematic for you and the next bet will most likely be larger.

About the only flops you could like are 55X, 2 or 3 to a flush, or 234. And 234 isnt something to fall in love with. That's not enough to justify the call pre.

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What position is hero? Is UTG the straddle

I would fold pre. A5s works better as a raising hand, a bluff at the bottom of your range in MP facing no limpers. A5s becomes super tricky multiway. You want to be calling limps here with 22-66 to set mine. But you just don’t get the action with A5s when you make your hand. You also have to proceed cautiously even when you it your ace. You win mostly small pots.

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Limp/fold pre. What are the next biggest stack sizes at the table?

PRE - If you're truly a NittyOldMan, you could limp-3B here. You're never too old to do something sexy as hell.

I'd go absolutely, obnoxiously massive, like $200-$250. If they all fold, and you're planning on going back to being a nit, just show the 5, not the A. Don't say a f**king thing. Just show the 5 and drag in the pot. Break their minds, and their spirits, with the awesomeness of your play.

FLOP - The SB just donks out for a chunky 60% pot size, into four opponents? Danger, Will Robinson!

And the limper calls, next to act? DANGER!!!

I doubt we ever have the best hand here. we could be drawing close to dead. Easy fold.

Next time limp-3B pre, and just take it down pre-rake, without having to actually make a hand.

I don’t limp much, but I have no problem with a hand that plays well multiway. Calling the open is standard as it’s still multiway. Fine with preflop play.

I call 75
You can’t be too quick to fold here, because you’re so deep and the turn could be beautiful.
Not sure it fits the 20 30 40 rule, but others are interested & you should get paid when you improve.

Miller said, if you called last street, you should probably call again. For the players that hit this board, how much better than you can they be?

Might have to get away from your hand on the turn, but I want to see it. If you hadn’t mentioned that you’re unlikely to get raised by the players behind, I would be more hesitant.

Raise pre, fold now.

Not sure I’m on the same page
I assume in many posts like this that we’re talking about an ‘occasional get out of line’ play, not a ‘regular’ play.

It makes a difference, yet not sure everyone is seeing it the same. The regular plays of folding boredom and playing premiums has less need for forum discussion.

If opponents have mostly seen value from hero all day, the call will look strong, so even if the turn bricks, v may shut down & let h see the river.

Pre is fine IMO. Limp/call is not that bad so deep. Raising initially is not good, building the pot. Don't think this is a good spot to limp/3! in late position. It won't be believable that you have a big pair.

Flop is an easy fold. This wheel card flop is an action flop and you didn't hit it that hard.

Hero isn't in late position. He's in EP.

results, I fold, limper behind me calls, PFR folds. turn 4, everyone checks, river 9, everyone checks. donker wins with 63s, hero realized he forgot two maxims:

1) people are honest multiway so i dont have to worry about being bluffed out on later streets
2) pot odds and equity matter.

Nice read, doc.

Limp/3! is fine, but I wouldn't go huge. You are representing AA/KK, looking to get called. You need to cbet a decent size on most actions and flops, and maybe barrel the turn. You don't make your money in low stakes cash taking pots preflop.