President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by bahbahmickey

I will grant you that 1 of your 2 reasons for inflation is correct. However, a massive part of the supply chain issues were from Dems succeeding in shutting down most of the economy. Increasing the money supply by 18% a year (for 2 years a row) when the normal rate is 6%/year was the other major contributor to inflation.

Do you get your money supply information from the same place as Mshu?

You can just look it up on the Fred

here is a hint from Jan 2021 to jan 2025 the money supply increased around 10% total


by coordi

Saying that corporations, who have a fiduciary responsibility to keep as much money for themselves as possible, will more efficiently flow money to individuals than the federal government, whos singular job is to support its citizens, kind of sounds like capitalistic insanity.Maybe I'm just too stupid to understand basic corporate tax structures as an accountant. Maybe you can

Yes, owners of companies try to make their companies as profitable as possible and they have been doing this for over 1,000 years so a tax cut does not change this. If a pencil company could charge $30k a pencil and not reduce the amount of sales they would do it. However, competition has been going on for over 1,000 years as well and that hasn't changed. Because of competition some of the savings from the tax cut will go to employees and customers.

One can understand corporate tax structure and still not understand where money goes if there are tax savings it seems.

The federal govt is incredible efficient at what?


by coordi

Do you get your money supply information from the same place as Mshu?

You can just look it up on the Fred

here is a hint from Jan 2021 to jan 2025 the money supply increased around 10% total

I'm not sure who mshu is.

Covid started in late 2019/early 2020 so why did you choose Jan of 2021 to start your alleged data when I clearly said the fed increased the money supple at the start of covid? You can lie or mislead about a lot of things, but unfortunately for you the change in M2 is very well documented. Maybe you should stick to thinking you being an accountant makes you an expert in the economy.

Just in case anyone here is stupid enough to believe you I included a quote from nasdaq below. I would post a chart of the change in M2, but there are some ITT that would just confuse... and I don't know how to post images.

"When the Fed increased the M2 money supply by over 40% during the COVID crisis"


by coordi

Publicly traded companies represent the overwhelming portion of corporate taxes

The top 6 corporate tax payers represent about 13% of ALL collected taxes

What does this have to do with what I wrote?


Look at any wealth or income inequity chart since Reagan initiated the trickle down lie and it's blatantly obvious to anyone not as dumb as baba that the trickling is up, not down. Corporations absolutely do not use their windfalls for their employees. Labor is a cost that they work extremely hard to keep down. However there isn't any such consideration for ceo and executive compensation. They literally shovel money to the top.


by Rococo

I see. Your good buddy mongidig has talked about Biden plenty in the last two years, but not you.

I only know what I have posted.


by coordi

The irony of this post is you support an Administration that is trying to turn the US into a third world cesspooly by blindly copying authoritarian strategies from people like BukeleYou had actual people who really think they are smart folks saying that the US should copy El Salvadors privatization and industrialization unironically. Like holy **** those people are actually **

I don’t “support” this administration. If I see something good I’ll give them their credit. I think both parties are off the rails.


by bahbahmickey

I'm not sure who mshu is. Covid started in late 2019/early 2020 so why did you choose Jan of 2021 to start your alleged data when I clearly said the fed increased the money supple at the start of covid? You can lie or mislead about a lot of things, but unfortunately for you the change in M2 is very well documented. Maybe you should stick to thinking you being an accountant make

You were blaming the Dems for inflation but the money supply has ballooned under both Trump administrations

Kinda hilarious you are implying im lying when I was correcting you by pointing out the timeframe. That was you! you were the one trying to lie

edit: honestly your post is increasingly pissing me off the more I think about it. what a ****ing muppet you are


by Didace

What does this have to do with what I wrote?

edit : fair point


by a lying piece of **** who rapes

I don’t “support” this administration. If I see something good I’ll give them their credit. I think both parties are off the rails.

Sure, pal


by Elway

“Using your toes”

That’s so funny!

How do you come up with this stuff?

Same way you come up with how you rape the women who can’t say no anymore

One action at a time


by bahbahmickey

I will grant you that 1 of your 2 reasons for inflation is correct. However, a massive part of the supply chain issues were from Dems succeeding in shutting down most of the economy. Increasing the money supply by 18% a year (for 2 years a row) when the normal rate is 6%/year was the other major contributor to inflation.

No.


by coordi

You were blaming the Dems for inflation but the money supply has ballooned under both Trump administrations

Kinda hilarious you are implying im lying when I was correcting you by pointing out the timeframe. That was you! you were the one trying to lie

edit: honestly your post is increasingly pissing me off the more I think about it. what a ****ing muppet you are

The USA is not run by a king no matter how bad the left wants people to think that. Every single dem fought their tails off to shut down the economy, massively increase handouts and print money faster. The same can not be said about repubs.

I’m sorry my posts upset you. I’m sure it would drive me crazy too if the party I leaned was fighting to make more people dependent on the govt too. Luckily I support the party trying to get people self-sufficient.


by biggerboat

Look at any wealth or income inequity chart since Reagan initiated the trickle down lie and it's blatantly obvious to anyone not as dumb as baba that the trickling is up, not down. Corporations absolutely do not use their windfalls for their employees. Labor is a cost that they work extremely hard to keep down. However there isn't any such consideration for ceo and executive c

Put the kool aid down and re-read my post #71377. Also, remember that income inequality has never and will never be an issue worth fixing in a country as free as the US currently is.

Corporations don’t have the only say in what they pay employees. In a free market system the market decides how much skills and labor are worth and if employees try to pay less they end up with no employees. This phenomenon is at play with no skilled labor all the way to CEOs.


I got paywalled. Am I correct in assuming you aren’t capable of explaining what the article says because if you were you would have done it when you first posted the link?


by bahbahmickey

I got paywalled. Am I correct in assuming you aren’t capable of explaining what the article says because if you were you would have done it when you first posted the link?

No. Just like every other post you have made, you are laughably far off base on that, too. I would suggest learning the basic skill of learning how to remove paywalls (.com) in order to survive on the internet.


by blahblah

Am I correct in assuming

Not now, not ever


He wouldn’t need to promise sweeping pardons years in advance if his administration was following the law.



by steamraise

He wouldn’t need to promise sweeping pardons years in advance if his administration was following the law.

I don't pretend to understand the law, but I had always thought that to get a pardon someone had to admit to the crime.


Relevant case is:
Lorrance v. Commandant, USDB, 2021
https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/sites/ca10...

We conclude that Lorance’s acceptance of the pardon did not have the legal
effect of a confession of guilt and did not constitute a waiver of his habeas rights.
Despite Lorance’s release from custody pursuant to the pardon, he sufficiently
alleges ongoing collateral consequences from his convictions, creating a genuine case
or controversy and rendering his habeas petition not moot. Accordingly, exercising
jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1291, we reverse and remand for further proceedings.

Prior to this, it was generally thought that, since a pardon can be refused (United States v. Wilson, 1833), accepting one implied guilt (Burdick v. United States, 1925).


by campfirewest

I don't pretend to understand the law, but I had always thought that to get a pardon someone had to admit to the crime.

Your understanding is incorrect.


Yeah you just got to be convicted Federally of a crime, is how I understand it?


by bahbahmickey

The USA is not run by a king no matter how bad the left wants people to think that. Every single dem fought their tails off to shut down the economy, massively increase handouts and print money faster. The same can not be said about repubs. I’m sorry my posts upset you. I’m sure it would drive me crazy too if the party I leaned was fighting to make more people depen

So your theory is that the Dems somehow managed to cause inflation by .... shutting down the entire global supply chain due to a global pandemic

But you think its a big mystery why the money supply has ballooned ~75% under the two Trump administrations

You conveniently left off the PPP scam which is confirmed to be the largest single instance of fraud in all of known history

Like, you have zero logic or reason to your opinion. Just feels and being completely wrong about everything. It would be incredible if it wasn't so pathetic


I feel like coordi is as done with this **** as I have been for awhile. I love it.


Top 1% share of U.S. household
wealth: 31.7% in Q3 2025, a record high

Top 1% total assets: approximately $55 trillion

Bottom 90% combined wealth: approximately $54 trillion

Top 10% share of corporate equity and mutual funds: more than 87%

Top 10% share of consumer spending Q2 2025: nearly 50%

Wage growth December 2025: 3% for high earners vs 1.1% for low earners

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