President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Cause the leaders of your **** country are actively making life worse for us all.
Clapping seal ITT.
He gave those tax cuts for 6 years. The only reason he did so was because the main objective was to pass a bill that gave a permanent corporate tax break from 34% to 21% so he needed a bargaining chip.
I don't care what your excuse is about why something happen. What is important is that the working poor and middle class got the tax break.
How is that looking out for the working class when corporations get a huge permanent tax break and the plebs get a 6-year break?
Corporations getting a tax break is a huge win for the working poor/middle class. That lowers the costs of corporations which gets passed down to the owners, workers and customers.
I think trump and DOGE faced far more blowback about shrinking the size of govt than expected. I think they grossly underestimated the fraud and the other non-fraud but BS money govt spends.
In saying that WSJ published an article 7 days ago that said the fed workforce is down 11.7% since the start of his 2nd term which is a massive win for the working class.
The BBB took over $1 trillion from SNAP and healthcare benefits to give to top and in order to do that, he had to make the standard deduction permanent.
There is an incredible amount of fraud and waste in all things the govt does and SNAP and healthcare is no different.
Should we get into tariffs? Should we talk about market manipulation? Should we talk about ripping off his own supporters with a meme coin two days before inauguration? Should we talk about the costs of wars 7000 miles away?
We can get into tariffs if you'd like. I'd argue the avg working class family was not seriously effected by tariffs for the better or worse. There were definitely some winners and losers when it comes to tariffs but very few of them, if any, were the poor to middle class.
Market manipulation? I'd like to respond to this, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
LOL saying he ripped people off for being a meme coin. I am sure they over paid for the coin. People over pay for stuff everyday.
Yeah, we can talk about how the world is safer now that we bombed the **** out of Iran.
How do you reconcile this with life getting increasingly more expensive, directly because of Trump policies?
I think it would be extremely misleading to blame trump for our govt's poor reaction to covid, specifically: shutting down a large part of the economy, printing money at 3x the normal rate for 2 years and handing out money to anyone and everyone. These 3 policies, which are the main cause of inflation we have seen since covid, were all things Dems fought their butts off to implement and trump fought hard against. Give dems credit for their accomplishments.
Jobs lost due to tariffs, health insurance up, food more expensive and all the while Trump and his family have been getting richer and richer.
Unemployment is not that high, but anytime the govt makes a big policy change some people lose their jobs and other jobs open up. Simple example of this would be green energy policies - fossil fuel jobs are lost while solar and wind jobs open up.
What 5 year period was health insurance not up? Blaming trump on a problem that has been going on for decades seems a bit silly.
Yes, rich people tend to get richer... just like a huge majority of the poor and middle class also get richer.
Saying "what" to a post and no other context makes it difficult to understand what if anything you disagree with.
In my respond to LOL I mentioned a WSJ article printed 7 days ago that highlighted the number of employees for the fed govt is down 11.7%.
I'm not sure what countries posters are from, but you have to remember that there were a lot of countries that had higher tariffs on the US than the US had on them. When trump focused on putting an end to this it hurt a lot of other countries.
Tariffs in general are a terrible idea as the goal should be 0% tariffs throughout the whole world, but no country with any economic power should allow another country to have a huge gap of tariffs not in their favor unless they are desperate for whatever they are importing.
I'm not sure what countries posters are from, but you have to remember that there were a lot of countries that had higher tariffs on the US than the US had on them. When trump focused on putting an end to this it hurt a lot of other countries. Tariffs in general are a terrible idea as the goal should be 0% tariffs throughout the whole world, but no country with any economic pow
It seems all the cry babies are from Canada or UK.
I think it would be extremely misleading to blame trump for our govt's poor reaction to covid: shutting down a large part of the economy, printing money at 3x the normal rate and handing out money to anyone and everyone. These 3 policies, which are the main cause of inflation we have seen since covid, were all things Dems fought their butts off to implement and trump fought har
It's almost as if I added a very specific caveat to avoid these nonsensical responses where you just shift blame and you end up doing exactly that. Shifting blame. Life has been measurably getting worse for Americans DIRECTLY because of Trump policies, how about you address that instead of these general bs responses?
Yes, rich people tend to get richer... just like a huge majority of the poor and middle class also get richer.
Again an objectively false statement but completely irrelevant to what I said. The Trump family is getting richer and richer due to very obvious market manipulation and your response is ''yes rich people get richer''.
You make life worse for you. Take responsibility for your life and stop playing the victim.
No offense but I don't think rapists should be giving life advice.
Don’t argue with Blahblah about this - I don’t think he qualifies as literate and only believes what Fox News tells him to
I think you're right.
Can you be more specific about which countries you are referring to?
I see. Your good buddy mongidig has talked about Biden plenty in the last two years, but not you.
That's a good explanation. I think the Democrats have done a poor job of communicating and demonstrating this. Joe Biden said he would only hire a women of color to be his Vice President. I think a lot of Conservatives took that as a classic DEI hire. If it was truly a DEI hire then Biden would have said he is giving all people no matter gender or race the opportunity to be his
Another question for mongidig. Which country is not a "turd country" in your estimation? Hungary?
Corporations getting a tax break is a huge win for the working poor/middle class. That lowers the costs of corporations which gets passed down to the owners, workers and customers.
Absurd. Is this what FOX is spitting out?
Why do so many posters from cesspool third world countries think they know what is best for the greatest country on Earth?
The irony of this post is you support an Administration that is trying to turn the US into a third world cesspooly by blindly copying authoritarian strategies from people like Bukele
You had actual people who really think they are smart folks saying that the US should copy El Salvadors privatization and industrialization unironically. Like holy **** those people are actually ****ing ******s!
The most direct causes of inflation were supply chain disruptions and the rise in oil prices after Trump's 2 year deal with OPEC. Following that it was Russia's df attack on Ukraine, rivaled in stupidity only by the US's df attack on Iran.
In my own expert opinion, I have never been humorless. You just weren't paying close enough attention until recently. 😆
We are in the mist of an escalating war. I’m pretty sure Trump will be tweeting later tonight about Jimmy Kimmel’s ratings and how bad the Oscars are.
Only the clowns here want to discuss how Biden compares.
I was completely wrong in this post other than the clowns obsessively talking about Biden.
Our loser president is tweeting about the ratings of podcasters, not tv night show hosts. Mea culpa.
It's almost as if I added a very specific caveat to avoid these nonsensical responses where you just shift blame and you end up doing exactly that. Shifting blame. Life has been measurably getting worse for Americans DIRECTLY because of Trump policies, how about you address that instead of these general bs responses?
I can't read your mind so I don't know what trump policies YOU believe are making Americans worse off. Care you clarify? I assumed you, like most other posters ITT, were trying to blame trump for inflation.
Again an objectively false statement but completely irrelevant to what I said. The Trump family is getting richer and richer due to very obvious market manipulation and your response is ''yes rich people get richer''.
I know you have been given cup after cup of kool-aid to convince you that poor peoples' lives haven't improved for the last 75 years, but the fact is for a massive majority of the poor that just isn't true.
From a WSJ article printed 3 days ago titled "The American Middle Class Keeps Getting Richer":
A University of Michigan study found that nearly 30% of people who were in the bottom quintile of earners in 1975 had risen to the top quintile by 1991, and only 5% of individuals initially in the bottom quintile had remained there. A U.S. Treasury Department analysis, “Income Mobility in the U.S. from 1996 to 2005,” concluded: “More than 50 percent of taxpayers in the bottom quintile moved to a higher quintile within ten years.”
"In 1979 the upper middle class was 10% of all families. By 2024 it was 31%. Over the same period, the share of families with income below the core middle class declined from 54% to 35%. “Family incomes rose significantly across the entire income distribution, pushing more families into higher income categories,” the study found. Other studies show similar patterns. Yes, the rich have gotten richer over the decades, but so have the nonrich. “Everybody is doing better,” Richard Fry of the Pew Research Center told the Journal."
So if corporate taxes go down that means the corporation is keeping more of the money it earns. If you disagree with me that some of the savings trickles into the pockets of the owners, employees and customers where do you think it goes?
We can, at some point, discuss economic growth and how it is effected by tax rates, but I think you need a basic understanding of how corporate tax cuts help owners, employees and customers before we can discuss that.
I have never heard the above on FOX, but I don't watch much FOX so I can't tell you if they have shared these facts.
Saying that corporations, who have a fiduciary responsibility to keep as much money for themselves as possible, will more efficiently flow money to individuals than the federal government, whos singular job is to support its citizens, kind of sounds like capitalistic insanity.
Maybe I'm just too stupid to understand basic corporate tax structures as an accountant. Maybe you can explain it to me like im five
We just went through this with DOGE. Say what you will about the federal government but its actually incredibly efficient considering the scale and scope of opperations
Saying that corporations, who have a fiduciary responsibility to keep as much money for themselves as possible
I don't believe this is true.
Publicly traded companies represent the overwhelming portion of corporate taxes
The top 6 corporate tax payers represent about 13% of ALL collected taxes
The most direct causes of inflation were supply chain disruptions and the rise in oil prices after Trump's 2 year deal with OPEC. Following that it was Russia's df attack on Ukraine, rivaled in stupidity only by the US's df attack on Iran.
I will grant you that 1 of your 2 reasons for inflation is correct. However, a massive part of the supply chain issues were from Dems succeeding in shutting down most of the economy. Increasing the money supply by 18% a year (for 2 years a row) when the normal rate is 6%/year was the other major contributor to inflation.
