USA Goes to War Against Iran
USA Goes to War Against Iran
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USA Goes to War Against Iran

Time for a dedicated thread to the war.

How long will it last and what will be the probable outcome?

02 March 2026 at 06:37 PM
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by MoViN.tArGeT m

i was just explaining based on your own numbers their volume has actually decreased.....

Except you forgot the part about why their volume has decreased. They are intentionally selling fewer barrels, or did you forget that they are the ones controlling the traffic of the strait?

by Elway m

I hope the President follows through with his threat to bomb Iran into the Stone Age. The Japanese quickly realized the US wasn’t playing at the end of WW2. They were nutty people similar to these jihadists. Maybe not as nutty. If they know massive force is going to kill them all they will capitulate. If the President does not follow through then I’m done with him. I allow for

Lol at hoping for nukes to be used. That's insane, even for a date rapist wall painter.

I guess you're going to be done with him (yeah right, LMFAO) because we're way too early for him to be bringing out nukes and it will be TACO Tuesday again.

Once he keeps taking more L's, the service member death count keeps rising, and his poll numbers go into the teens, then he'll bring out the nukes.

by Bored5000 m

LOL at suggesting the 25th amendment would ever be used or questioning why it has not been used yet. The last two administrations have shown that neither party would ever use the 25th Amendment to remove a President from their party from office.

It's pretty easy for it to be used against Trump. As gas prices continue to go up and below average MAGAs resort to shoplifting chuck steaks and above average MAGAs resort to shopping at Walmart, Trump will shake off a good percentage of MAGA and Vance will feel it to be an appropriate time for him to swoop in and the rest will fall like dominoes because they hate Trump as it is.

by 5 south m

I'm not sure where lakes for his numbers from, during my exhaustive 5min Google search I couldn't find anybody quoting a price per barrel that Iranian oil was asking for. But if they're selling less product and making more money, in what world is that not a win? If the numbers are correct, they would also refute dunyain's assertions that lifting the sanctions did not allow Iran

Tanker Trackers. They have been tracking tankers via satellite for almost 10 years. Since 3/1 Iran has exported 108 tankers.

Something interesting happening:


by John21 m

Yeah, I agree. But Trump has surrounded himself with a Christian cabinet, not all of whom are likely buying his sincerity.

u wot?

The Christians who accepted jobs in his cabinet are among the least sincere people you could meet. If some aren't convinced of his sincerity (amazing!) it has nothing to do with being Christian.


by John21 m

You're vastly overestimating the discounts which have actually decreased Before the war they were selling oil for $70 per barrel with a 10% discount, iirc. Now they're selling it for over $100 with a 2% discount due to the supply shortage. So they've basically doubled their gross profit per barrel. So Iran wants to charge tolls - which seems to be non-negotiable from their end

Pretty sure it's 2mil Yuan, not dollars.


by Land O Lakes m

Right... so provide your evidence that they didn't make an average of $139 million per day in March and how that is up from $115 million per day in February.

The hell is this website anyway. you need a subscription to get info on tankers? lmao I guess people use twitter. just because your source is likely solid you still used it inaccurately claiming Their wholesale estimate of oil as a fact. As others have pointed out they shipped out an estimated 139 million worth of oil at its current international price. They didn't sell it for 139 million. they would have had preexisting deals in place. We have infact provided evidence they didn't make 139 million per day

This is from bloomberg
"Based on export estimates from Tankertrackers.com and prices for the country’s flagship grade Iranian Light, Tehran would have earned about $139 million a day from sales of its main Iranian Light crude blend so far in March, up from $115 million in February."

Theres no actual evidence that exists that they sold the oil for 139 million a day

I understand im being salty here but I didn't like how you glossed over me finding your source and correcting you after you challenged me so i just want some acknowledgment that you know the difference between a wholesale estimated value and what the oil will sell for. k thanks

Im sure even iran wouldn't be stupid enough to extort china into getting top dollar in this situation


by MoViN.tArGeT m

The hell is this website anyway. you need a subscription to get info on tankers? lmao I guess people use twitter. just because your source is likely solid you still used it inaccurately claiming Their wholesale estimate of oil as a fact. As others have pointed out they shipped out an estimated 139 million worth of oil at its current international price. They didn't sell it for

You seem to be crashing out because you can't accept that Iran is making more money per day on oil exports after the war started than before the war started.

It's okay - you can profit off the market manipulation with Trump's Easter tweet. Can you guess what the market is going to do today?


no im crashing out because you asked me to find evidence they didn't sell 139 million barrels of oil I found it and gave it to you and your being difficult.

They will make more money if they can keep this racket up but the current claim is just not reality.

A 24 million increase in revenue a day does not even cover their daily military costs anyway. silly silly. IF this is all the pro Iranians have its some copium for sure

Iran Loses 1.56 million Dollars Every Hour Due To shutting their own Internet down. That's 39 million dollars a day. Thats just to stop their citizens from getting information 39 is a bigger number then 24. My video editor living in iran can't do his job he's not getting paid. he's not paying taxes and bringing in money to the iranian regime


*complains immigrants are taking jobs*

*my video editor in Iran*


by MoViN.tArGeT m

no im crashing out because you asked me to find evidence they didn't sell 139 million barrels of oil I found it and gave it to you and your being difficult.They will make more money if they can keep this racket up but the current claim is just not reality. A 24 million increase in revenue a day does not even cover their daily military costs anyway. silly silly. IF this is all t

Here was the claim:

by Land O Lakes m

Claim: Iran is making more money from oil exports since the war started.

Now you're trying to pivot to the costs of war. Well no chit, Sherlock, having entire communities blown to chit is costly. This is why your boy Trump is asking for $1.5 trillion dollars.


Don't hate the player hate the game. see they can make money from North America without coming here!

does a oil tanker sell its oil before leaving port?


by MoViN.tArGeT m

i did this was posted before your "claim"

You didn't post chit refuting this.


by Land O Lakes m

Right... so provide your evidence that they didn't make an average of $139 million per day in March and how that is up from $115 million per day in February.

i did this was posted before your "claim" im not pivoting anything. your the one using iran making more money from oil as a coping mechanism. do you know how they are able to do that? because of WAR this makes it a "cost of war " from your pov against iranians enemies. we are literally already talking about costs of war.

but acually choosing to shut down your own internet is not even "a cost of war" its called being a TOTALITARIAN dictatorship gtfo out of here LMAO . Shutting down the internet is a choice its not a cost of war silly silly goose


by Land O Lakes m

You didn't post chit refuting this.

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I found your source I corrected it and used it as intended and tried to explain how you were using it wrong.

this back to back after claiming shutting down your internet is a "cost of war". I CAN'T

now im crashing out πŸ˜€


So you're saying Iran has made more money in oil exports in the last 5 weeks than in the 5 weeks preceding the war?


I actually agreed to that point like 80 posts ago you missed the point completely unlike you I like to give a little. anyway I should know better then to tryhard vs people sourcing twitter there's still a 280 character limit that's not enough to understand context sometimes. I just wanted to see if I could get you to concede one small point for fun but it went way over your head making you think it was more important then it was or something . I just wanted you to admit that the estimated value leaving the strait is not the sale price because its a ****ing estimate and not what it was sold for


Okay, so you're saying Iran has made more money from oil exports in the month of March than in the month of February?

Yeah, no chit.


well ya probably. I never disagreed. its probably closer to the same tho because their only selling to one country that is their lifeline and giving them weapons


Rewriting history while crashing out, I see.


Paintrape, come save your boy


--I am not going to pretend I understand how currency markets work, because I don't. But my understanding is the Yuan isn't a reserve currency exactly because the CCP doesn't want it to be one. And whatever people are saying, there is no actual indication this choice is changing anytime soon. And no political stunts by the IRI selling a small amount of oil in Yuan are going to change this.


I am grunching most of this conversation. But the main point you seem to be missing is that Iran sells most of its oil on the black market to China at a very favorable price to China. So the price of oil on the open market they dont use isn't an accurate indicator of what they are making off their oil. You also have to factor they have to move the money through shadow companies and banks in UAE and Hong Kong that are all taking their cut, so their margin is going to be even smaller.


Originally Posted by 5 south

I'm not sure where lakes for his numbers from, during my exhaustive 5min Google search I couldn't find anybody quoting a price per barrel that Iranian oil was asking for. But if they're selling less product and making more money, in what world is that not a win? If the numbers are correct, they would also refute dunyain's assertions that lifting the sanctions did not allow Iran to sell at a more premium price.
Some articles I found said that there are 95 million barrels of Iranian oil out at sea that left before this debacle started.
Sounds like India was willing to pay a premium.

--Again, we have no clue what they are actually selling the majority of their oil at. All these numbers we are throwing out could have no tether at all to reality on the ground. My understanding is some portion of this is done using the barter system, and it is quite possible a lot of what they are getting from China is just military aid to keep their war machine going, and they aren't getting a single yuan out of this they could use for non military needs.

And regardless, I think we can all agree that being bombed for a month straight, having billions upon billions of dollars worth of infrastructure destroyed, and in return hypothetically selling oil at a slightly higher margin isn't what one would call a win. for The Regime. And it is pretty ridiculous (and shows the extreme bias of our own media) that it is being framed this way.


by Dunyain m

Originally Posted by 5 south--Again, we have no clue what they are actually selling the majority of their oil at. All these numbers we are throwing out could have no tether at all to reality on the ground. My understanding is some portion of this is done using the barter system, and it is quite possible a lot of what they are getting from China is just military aid to keep th

fun fact I learned while land of lakes was breaking my brain. according to his source the best favorable unrealistic estimates are iran is making 24 million a day more with the increase of global oil price.

Did you know they are losing an estimated 39 million dollars a day by shutting off their own internet? THEY MUST REALLY REALLY NOT WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE INTERNET. because if 24 million dollars a day is going to save them. THEY MUST REALLY REALLY not want free speech among their people during war time. Why would a regime prioritize such a thing?


by MoViN.tArGeT m

fun fact I learned while land of lakes was breaking my brain. according to his source the best favorable unrealistic estimates are iran is making 24 million a day more with the increase of global oil price.Did you know they are losing an estimated 39 million dollars a day by shutting off their own internet? THEY MUST REALLY REALLY NOT WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE INTERNET. because

More copium over realizing that they are making more money off oil exports and that will not change because they're not going to bend the knee.


making less then shutting off their own internet because they are theocracy dictators who murder there own citizens to keep control copium


by MoViN.tArGeT m

Did you know they are losing an estimated 39 million dollars a day by shutting off their own internet? THEY MUST REALLY REALLY NOT WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE INTERNET. because if 24 million dollars a day is going to save them. THEY MUST REALLY REALLY not want free speech among their people during war time. Why would a regime prioritize such a thing?

Is anyone here arguing that the Iranian government is full of a bunch of great people? That really isn't the point.

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