A5s is my favorite hand when I’m in over my head!

You can definitely have a limping range when the button straddle is on. That said, you can also tighten up and playing as shallow as you are, you can probably just fold here, boring as it is

8 players in the hand? or just straddle and SB? In any case, I am flat calling 3 more having put in 3 in the BB. No point getting fancy in this kind of game.

What is the max buyin? you mentioned 1000. Most 1/3 games let you buyin for 500.

Raise > Over limp > Fold

I would open to $30

I’m not calling 2nd to act…

Depending on what I see around me, I could raise or fold. Hero might bet 35 to take down another one if you can. I read kinda mixed messages, and if instead, everyone is going to call your bet, it’s a fold for sure.

The strength of this (solver happy) hand is not OOP; it’s can be easily folded, because it’s hard to realize your equity.

It’s more desirable in position, because even when you miss, there’s often bluffing opportunities.

During the hand I thought: should 1) I iso-raise the SB to go heads-up? Bet how much? 2) Call 3 and go multiway, maybe calling a raise? Or 3) just fold.

If it is going 6 ways for a raise I would not raise. If there will likely be a $30 raise I would not limp. Possible limp and possible call if raised small. Tho fold is gonna be my default here based on the general description.

This is a snap fold?
I wouldn't even open A5s in utg unless once in a bluemoon.
I guess we can limp/3b jam some to pick up some dead money sometime?

If you think it's going to limp around I don't hate a call, but if Vs are going to raise often just muck it. A5s is a nice bluffing hand when you're getting HU a lot, but multiway OOP you're just hoping to flop a flush.

Hand continues

BTN straddle 6. SB call. Hero BB with Ac5c? Hero raises to 30. UTG, BTN, and SB call. 4-way.

Flop (110 after rake): Tc4h5d

SB checks. Hero?

Cbet 1/3

I don't like the raise at all OOP and shallow. If it will be a limped pot a lot, then call for 1/2 bet.

This is a good flop to cbet. It will mostly only work if you are ahead. However, you also have 5 outs to improve.

you have the best hand fairly often but dont want anyone to call because every turn + river card is bad except for a 5 and ace. spr is low. you block 55 and i doubt anyone has a pocket pair better than your pair of fives. tbh i think id just shove and make tx think about it, and if tx calls you have outs.

pf is bad.

Curious why everyone is saying pf is bad? The CLP charts have A5s as a 100% open in the BB vs Btn straddle

Squeeze was fun but a bad choice. Four-way I did not foresee but should have given reads. I forgot to never bluff calling stations. A5s is a bluff.

Final inflection point.

BTN straddle 6. SB call. Hero BB with Ac5c? Hero raises to 30. UTG, BTN, and SB call. 4-way.

Flop (110 after rake): Tc4h5d

SB checks. Hero? Hero bets 50. V in UTG calls. BTN and SB fold. Heads-up

Turn: (210): 7h

Hero checks. V bets 65. Hero?

Think I would just limp pre-flop. Some interesting limp-jam potential but really just want to see a cheap flop with this hand. Don’t really want to fold getting a good price with a good multi-way hand. Raising is whatever. I don’t think it’s awful.

Difficult spots post-flop. I would probably default to flop check but bet small can’t be bad. $50 seems a little big.

Turn is grim. He has few bluffs and lots of TX and even 7X. For this size I wonder if he could have some mergey stuff we beat like 4X or 56. For this price I think I would call one and plan on folding to a river bet. Folding may be best though.

Those CLP charts are for RFI spots whereas this is an ISO. You would want to ISO a slightly narrower range. Those ranges also likely assume a depth of 100 straddles, whereas hero only has 55.

Calling stations. GTO assumes everyone acts rationally. Just play tight against stations.

You did say they were giving you action on your good hands, right? If so, no need to bump it up with suited wheel aces. Didn't think of limping them at first, but they'll let you get away with it, sure, why not?

Problem with just calling the turn is H will have like 190 back, and the pot will be 340-->H is pretty much priced in/forced to call everything on the river. I'd rather jam now, tbh, despite it repping pretty much only TT. Fold works too, despite my thought that V is FOS/getting mergey with things like 98, hearts, and other trash a pair of 5s beats.

You’re right I forgot sb calls, and good point about being shallow.

Yeah not this.

Pretty sure pre is just the easiest fold ever being 50bb deep and even more a fold with the described table. Sure arguments can be made for limping in, if the table doesn't do much raising fair enough.

At 56bbs we should never be getting out-of-line preflop, especially at a loose table.

I think this is a trivial fold from this spot at this stack size, especially at a typical LLSNL table where far more pots are raised than limped.

If we're feeling loosey goosey, wouldn't despise attempting to limp in for cheap and see if we get an okish price to see a flop. And if we're really feeling high variance, perhaps a limp/reraise against the right opponents.

Raising at this type of table with this stack in this position seems far and away the worst option, imo.

GcluelessnittingitupnoobG

There is clearly no such thing as an "iso" raise at this type of table, so I wouldn't be attempting it from the stoopidest position possible with a crap hand at a small stack, imo.

SPR is lol 3 (we should never be in SPR 3 spots with these types of hands, imo). But board is unlikely to really have smashed anyone. I mean, I'm literally never in this spot, but I guess I wouldn't hate a bet to setup a turn jam and try to plow something thru with likely some equity if called.

GcluelessKISSnoobG

Thank you for your candor and short-stack expertise.