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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by formula72 m

I don't know what Housenut's take on crypto is other than he seems to be a big fan of it. Personally, I think crypto and NFTs in general seem to attract a bunch of high-risk inexperienced robinhood using idiots who always end up broke by falling victim to speculatory tricks that are deliberately crafted by experienced investors looking to exploit those people.But I'd agree tha

The issue is I was commenting on a very specific claim that he was making, namely that Biden waged an all-out war on crypto. He tends to make very hyperbolic statements that are unfounded and then retreat to a less hyperbolic position when called out. Of course I’m not saying Biden was the crypto president, but he certainly didn’t treat crypto like a pet issue where he was out to destroy it. Not did he ever come out to ban it or his administration. He said he wanted to regulate it.

He didn’t even go after people for crypto scams, pump and dumps, and insider trading, when there were likely good legal theories he could have pursued. Even for a moderate anti-crypto position, he didn’t pursue those legal theories which could have cost a lot of people a lot of money. Think of how many undisclosed NFT ads there were during that whole crazy time. He could have retroactively went back and tried to mess with those people but didn’t.

Cryptobros tend not to even give Biden any credit for his very measured position on crypto at a time when some in the party wanted to crack down on it. That’s what I’m pushing back on.


by 5 south m

I don't know why in 2026 there is $50-$100 worth of "friction" to send money internationally, it's a huge ripoff and crypto fixes that. I'm fine to take responsibility for my money and not have recourse if I fat finger something but I'm also doubtful the US govt has no power to deal big blows to the ecosystem.

Maybe, who knows, but that seems like a rather large drop solely on the actions of the US. I would assume banning gold would be a little easier and if we did that here and seized all the vaults and punished all transactions that gold currently runs through, it would still be business as usual for all other countries who invest and hold it. Bitcoin seems to be more elusive than that and I don't think the US is that powerful globally.

Maybe if all the countries do get in cahoots with one another in this theoretical model then we do crush it completely, but the world isn't very aligned in any manner - especially money. ...im done talking crapto.


Gold would be harder, can be passed physically between parties with no record.
BTC would be a Herculaneum effort to really dump it and would take allies to fall in line but keeping AI in mind, get the KYC and accounts from all US exchanges, match with people and follow the coins as they exit the exchanges or all transactions from US citizens in the past, start busting people. Probably some cases to set an example on people like media pirating will spook most of the normies. Maybe have a buy back amnesty period when people can hand over their keys for pennies on the dollar and not get in trouble.
There are probably so many ways to force it underground again. It still has many things going for it over fiat but I'm not sure it's as resilient as it's touted in some circles.
We'll see after the wall st bros run it through the spin cycle.


by Rococo m

I don't think that I have ever seen a single example of an intelligent person accusing someone else of TDS.

In political discussion, accusing someone of having TDS is right up there with calling someone a cuck or a libtard in terms of revealing that the speaker is a complete idiot.

I feel exactly the same whenever someone calls out a godwin.

Maybe because the parallels to 1930s Germany are so obvious now, it has become a bit rarer, but I've never understood how so many people deem it a valid way to end (win) any discussion in which awkward comparisons are consciously drawn (to a clear pathway) to what is unanimously considered evil. Or it used to be considered beyond debate anyway, maybe the "godwin!"s have lessened not because there is no use in denying, but no reason to deny.


by checkraisdraw m

He said he wanted to regulate it.

No efforts were made to regulate. Only enforcement actions with no consistency. SEC refused to rule make. There's current attempts to regulate, but Democrats keep voting against it, mainly to satisfy their banker donors.

Genius Act passed, with many Dems opposing.
Clarity Act can't pass, because god forbid stablecoins can pay interest.

Both the House and Senate passed a resolution with bipartisan support to overturn the SEC's SAB 121 accounting rule. Biden vetoed it.

Get outta here.


by housenuts m
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I was not aware until I saw this that President Biden and Senator Warren are the same person.

All seriousness aside*, what does Warren opposing crypto have to do with Biden?

*as the late, great Steve Allen used to say


by geezerchess m

All seriousness aside*, what does Warren opposing crypto have to do with Biden?

Not sure if serious but I'll let you google how politics works. Ask your favorite ai agent how much influence Warren had on Biden for financial matters. Operation Choke Point 2.0 was a fun one too. Getting debanked was particularly fun.


by housenuts m

Yes this is a fact. You must've missed the prior administration's war on crypto (and Kamala said she'd change nothing) and the current Dems continued war on crypto and sucking off the bankers.

Objectively btc went up 3x under Biden

You, once again, are just wrong. And you fell for it. Literally quadrupling down on making my point for me

Of course you think I'm an idiot so this is all just cruel irony but I think most people can see whats happening here


by formula72 m

You simply can't control a decentralized network. If you arrest everyone, people will still be able to trade and move crypto peer-to-peer or through foreign exchanges. It's a jurisdiction issue and it would be extremely more difficult to ban bitcoin in the US than banning alcohol.

Brother, they just have to lock down the banks and 99% of users are completely ****ed

And I'm a crypto guy. I've been heavily involved for over 5 years straight now


by housenuts m

Not sure if serious but I'll let you google how politics works.

The sweet delicious irony

Just dripping endlessly like a faucet


by coordi m

Objectively btc went up 3x under Biden

You, once again, are just wrong. And you fell for it. Literally quadrupling down on making my point for me

Of course you think I'm an idiot so this is all just cruel irony but I think most people can see whats happening here

You are less of an idiot than some of the others here.

But short term price movements is an idiotic way to look at it.


How far into the Caligula zone is the cockwomble now? I'm thinking 85%. We're not quite peak 'appoint a horse as a consul' territory, but we're damn close with most of his appointments.

He will go down historically as a mad ruler though, and the USA will be a laughing stock for many years to come for not treating this mentally-incapacitated old man correctly.


by housenuts m

Yes this is a fact. You must've missed the prior administration's war on crypto (and Kamala said she'd change nothing) and the current Dems continued war on crypto and sucking off the bankers.

If history has taught us anything it is that when Dems declare war on something it usually results in more of what they are trying to get rid of.

Examples: Dems have "tried" to declare war on the poor by raising the MW (which meant fewer jobs), tax the rich more (fewer jobs), increase business regulations (less jobs), increase corporate taxes (fewer jobs) and increase govt handouts (decreased the incentive to get a job). Result was more poor and more people dependent on Daddy Govt.

Dems declare war on rent increases by using rent control which results in less investment to improve apartments and fewer apartments built which decreases the supply as well as increasing regulation around building apartments (again less supply).

I am not saying the dem's reverse phychology always works, but saying dems declaring war on something means the death of that thing is just inaccurate.

Crypto badly needs dem to control govt for a long period of time if it wants any change to truly moon. Crypto would thrive under heavy business regulation, the fed govt to grow as a % of GDP, high taxes, high govt handouts and other slow economic growth policies because that would make crypto more attractive than it is vs stocks today as well as bring on higher inflation because the fed would need to print more money faster to keep up with govt spending.


Wait, what? It's unsecret?

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/58071...

β€œIt was supposed to be secret, but it became unsecret because of people that are really unpatriotic saying things,” he said.


by bahbahmickey m

If history has taught us anything it is that when Dems declare war on something it usually results in more of what they are trying to get rid of. Examples: Dems have "tried" to declare war on the poor by raising the MW (which meant fewer jobs), tax the rich more (fewer jobs), increase business regulations (less jobs), increase corporate taxes (fewer jobs) and increase govt hand

You probably actually believe all this bullshit, eh? Elon and the boys thank you for being their useful idiot.


[URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/31/judge-blocks-trump-white-house-ballroom-plan"]US judge orders Trump to halt $400m White House ballroom project
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US district judge Richard Leon in Washington granted a request for a preliminary injunction by the National Trust for Historic Preservation, a non-profit organization which brought a lawsuit alleging that Trump had exceeded his authority by razing the East Wing and beginning construction without approval from Congress.

The decision by Leon, an appointee of Republican former president George W Bush, leaves the 90,000-sq-ft ballroom project on hold unless it receives approval from Congress.


No ballroom, no wall, no strait, 2 new wars, shitty economy. Winning!


by thethethe m

[URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/31/judge-blocks-trump-white-house-ballroom-plan"]US judge orders Trump to halt $400m White House ballroom project
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Should have waited until November to do this.


by jjjou812 m

No ballroom, no wall, no strait, 2 new wars, shitty economy. Winning!

No illegal immigrants.


by Elway m

No illegal immigrants.

As long as he punishes who you hate, none of that other stuff matters, am I right?


Serious question: why is paintrape allowed an alt? Mongo didn’t get banned, make him post on it


It would be pretty easy to guess why he might post on an alt while Mongo isn't banned and why thats okay


by coordi m

It would be pretty easy to guess why he might post on an alt while Mongo isn't banned and why thats okay

Oh it’s very easy to guess why he would want to. I’m just saying he shouldn’t be allowed to. Or at least make his subtitle ‘formerly Mongo.’ Homeboy has admitted to some **** you shouldn’t be allowed to distance yourself from by trying to rebrand yourself as all of the MAGA of Mongo with no evidence of self admitted chaturb8 devotion and rape

Just my $0.02


Trump falling to under 40 now on polling averages now. I gubonyhe only other time he was ever this low was right after Jan 6.


Army suspends officers for flying Apache helicopters for kid rock’s amusement. Kegstand lifts suspension and calls everyone involved patriots. This is where we are now

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