Tom Dwan - the missing man
How convenient is it that he just falls off the face of the earth after issuing and bailing half way through a 50k hand
I don’t really understand why Dwan gets any attention, Why do people care what he has to say?
Dude owes tons of money, about 15 years past his prime, clearly losing his marbles.
He reminds me of Mike matusow but for some reason people are still in awe of him, just baffles me.
But not even that...
I watch all the interviews with him because I'm hoping to learn something I don't already know.
And if I'm honest I'm still not sure if I have.
I don’t really understand why Dwan gets any attention, Why do people care what he has to say?
Dude owes tons of money, about 15 years past his prime, clearly losing his marbles.
He reminds me of Mike matusow but for some reason people are still in awe of him, just baffles me.
Tom dwan is a legendary player. It’s my goat for sure.
He was the most dominant player ever. Or at least in the last 20-30 years
There been Linus, berri sweet, jungleman but none of them were the undisputed best player like tom during his peak.
Back in the day there was many legends, but even those guys were afraid to play durrrr at highest stakes.
Durrrr is the reason Isildur became so famous. It’s the fact he destroyed Tom at 500/1k that gave Isildur the legend status.
Isildur could have played 10 tables Patrick Antonius, Ivey , galfond, Jesus and Britney Spears. Beating durrrr was different.
Then Tom lost his crown to Jungleman. You can’t deny that jungleman was better than him… but it’s part of life. Someone always better than you.
Compare him to Matusow is just pure hate. If you want compare, tom was Doyle Brunson at very least.
Brandon Adams listed Tom among 5 players he considered to be the best in the world. This was 20 years ago in his blog, 'Macroeconomic Woes'.
The other 4 players were Galfond, Schulman, Antonius, and Kenny Tran.
Everyone who followed poker 20 years ago knew Tom had more gamble than anyone. Some say he was reckless and was an outlier. I think the concensus at Tom's peak was that he was the best in the world at HU NLHE.
I got into poker at that time, still doesn’t take away from who he has been for the last 15 years.
The whole aura of him is long gone, now he’s just anothr degen that owes tons of money and is not competitive at all.
I get why you don't think he deserves attention. I was taking a shot at explaining what other people might be thinking.
Just a reminder, you were ITT talking about Dwan. So maybe you can do some deeper introspection as to why you still pay attention to him.
Tom’s the Led Zeppelin reunion of poker.
Tom Dwan was a game changer and therefore he will always be getting attention
Even though his relevance is diminishing
Brandon Adams listed Tom among 5 players he considered to be the best in the world. This was 20 years ago in his blog, 'Macroeconomic Woes'.The other 4 players were Galfond, Schulman, Antonius, and Kenny Tran. Everyone who followed poker 20 years ago knew Tom had more gamble than anyone. Some say he was reckless and was an outlier. I think the concensus at Tom's peak was that h
Kenny Tran
Hahahahah
If you got into poker at a certain time he was like the phenom you wanted to watch. He was killing everyone while playing loose aggro and he just seemed to be able wield that style better than anyone else. All the older poker mini celebs seemed to be scared of him. And then there was just the fact that a kid that young would sit with that much money, as much as he could get his
The Ship It Holla Ballas House. You had to be into poker at the time. Young kids who were in the wave of poker mini celebrities that came AFTER the Negreanu/Hellmuth wave of poker celebrities.
Its not too crazy to say that Tom Dwan was akin to Doyle of online poker
HSP debut 2007.
ever heard the saying... lets see if you're around in 20years.
I remember the oldschool players telling him that. is he still around>
HSP debut 2007.
ever heard the saying... lets see if you're around in 20years.
I remember the oldschool players telling him that. is he still around
Doyle was never known to owe millions of dollars and playing on credit for decades, as far as i know. please correct me if i am wrong.
Doyle was never known to owe millions of dollars and playing on credit for decades, as far as i know. please correct me if i am wrong.
Doyle was someone who motivated a ton of people to try and become a pro and grew the game through his legend status while never actually being as good as the legend would lead you to believe
The issue with ranking Tom that high in poker overall is that he was essentially really good for a short time at one game within high stakes. Doyle, Ivey, Antonius etc. were/are all good beyond short handed deep stack nlhe 🤷🏾*♂️. To compare Tom to Doyle is like Luka to Bird, we know who has an elite offensive skillset but we also know who is better at ball….
The issue with ranking Tom that high in poker overall is that he was essentially really good for a short time at one game within high stakes. Doyle, Ivey, Antonius etc. were/are all good beyond short handed deep stack nlhe ����*♂️. To compare Tom to Doyle is like Luka to Bird, we know who has an elite offensive skillset but we also kno
Nobody was playing plo or other games in those years
It’s like saying Jordan was a bad 3pt shooter.
Many role players have better 3pt numbers than bird . But we can’t say they were better than bird at 3pt
You all are ****ing high to compare Dwan, who was at the top of a specific game on a specific platform (for a handful of years) to Doyle Brunson.
To make it as a top professional, like at the top of the food chain, it takes a lot more than that. We aren't in the know of everything of course, but by all accounts Doyle was upstanding and continued to be a great player into his 80s. This is at all kinds of games, at the biggest stakes played. He likely amassed a fortune and was a top all around player, while also writing "the Bible " of poker.
Gimme a break.
Nobody was playing plo or other games in those years
It’s like saying Jordan was a bad 3pt shooter.
Many role players have better 3pt numbers than bird . But we can’t say they were better than bird at 3pt
yeah it's pretty amazing to see what the 3pt guys of the past did compared to today, would be interesting to see what guys like bird, miller, & even some of the guys who lasted towards the beginning of the 3pt revolution in ray allen would have done if they came up today where they'd be prioritizing that as their primary weapon rather than just being one of the few guys who used it outside of desperation
yeah it's pretty amazing to see what the 3pt guys of the past did compared to today, would be interesting to see what guys like bird, miller, & even some of the guys who lasted towards the beginning of the 3pt revolution in ray allen would have done if they came up today where they'd be prioritizing that as their primary weapon rather than just being one of the few guys who use
steph curry best make % in 3 point contes was 77%, birds was 74% without taking off his warmups. (basically a rounding error). some others are much higher during the "short line" years. this is a dopey stat i know and so is birds lifetime FG% being higher than curry but you start to put this stuff together, including bird spent his entire amateur life not having any clue what a 3 point shot was, and Bird would have absolutely dominated the modern game at 6'9" growing up with a 3 point shot. a bigger tougher smarter Luka Doncic.
You all are ****ing high to compare Dwan, who was at the top of a specific game on a specific platform (for a handful of years) to Doyle Brunson. To make it as a top professional, like at the top of the food chain, it takes a lot more than that. We aren't in the know of everything of course, but by all accounts Doyle was upstanding and continued to be a great player into his
Doyle is Wilt of poker.
Played with plumbers and milkman. Nobody knows for real how good he was.
I mean Doyle was still active in the late 2010s and we all saw him play. Maybe he wasn’t in his “prime” but still not really comparable to Wilt who retired in 1973
Doyle is Wilt of poker.
Played with plumbers and milkman. Nobody knows for real how good he was.
You might be trolling, but just in case:
This is dumb and im tired of hearing it. Youre compared to your competition, and as far as that goes, he excelled. There were no solvers, HUDS...hell there wasn't even poker on TV telling everyone the percentage of AK vs 55 to memorize. Dude said he just sat home and dealt out hands over and over to get an idea of what would be more likely to win. Haha.
Your argument works both ways, once everyone else started to "figure it out", it appeared that Dwan struggled. No?
I have nothing against Tommy, but its a ridiculous comparison and I wouldn't be surprised if Dwan even agreed.
