Do you finally regret supporting Donald Trump?
No supporting OP needed
That would be incorrect just as I can not identify as a Billy Goat
No men can get pregnant as Trans men are not men they are women that think they are men which if they are adults all the power to them /they zis/zos/he/she ...........
Do you believe that when people are saying that “some men can get pregnant” that they are saying “biological men can get pregnant”? If you believe they are talking about trans men, do you even have a disagreement with them?
People born as biological females who transition, aren't men though. They've a gender dysphoria and if they prefer different pronouns, that's perfectly okay and they shouldn't face ridicule or discrimination. But they aren't men. Trans men can get pregnant, men can't.
They are men in the sense of gender, but not in the sense of biology. So you’re just equivocating/talking about different things. They are men in the sense that they are talking about, they are not men in the sense that you are talking about.
They are men in the sense of gender, but not in the sense of biology. So you’re just equivocating/talking about different things. They are men in the sense that they are talking about, they are not men in the sense that you are talking about.
No, I'm just not denying fundamental truths to pander to your ideology.
What’s the fundamental truth that people are denying when they say that trans men can get pregnant? I’m not understanding at all, can you explain that to me? Are you thinking that they think that people born as biological males can get pregnant?
Hijacking any thread to turn it into another trans conversation should be an automatic 1 week ban.
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I find it funny that elections are literally being won and lost on the trans issue and the liberals on this forum don’t want to talk about it. Meanwhile you have guys like corpse walking around in a ridiculous delusion apparently that people think biological natal males can get pregnant.
It’s sort of sad that the attitude is so pervasive.
Doesn't fit neatly but who says you can't? That's the whole issue with you two: who is the final authority in regard to assigning referents?
I already pointed that out to you:
If one of my good 'guy' friends told me he was pregnant, I'm not going to say "That's impossible!" Nor am I going to start referring to 'him' as 'her' to maintain my intellectual integrity. You?
Answer that and it's no longer a trans issue. Which it really isn't anyway:
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If lozer is gonna vote Republican from now until the end of time cuz he’s terrified he might unwittingly **** a trans woman it is not my responsibility to litigate the ‘trans issue’ with him
Yes, lozer, for the millionth time I know you’re not American. Which makes this whole discussion with you infinitely stupider
Stop being worried people might think you’re gay
There are times where it makes sense to vote third party and there are times where it's imperative to vote main party. 2024 is an example where voting strategically is the correct play over voting with heart.
Voting 3rd party is not synonymous with voting with your heart. Voting 3rd party is a strategy, one which could have been used to avoid a situation where either party you vote for wants to let corporations enslave you and support genocidal ethnic cleansing.
2024 is an example of what happens when you let things slide too far by way of learned acquiescence, by compromising again and again over time. Believe me now or believe me when you take a hit in some form. In all seriousness though, it's got nothing to do with me. If the time comes when you have to make significant materially sacrifice at the behest of our oligarchs then you will know you should have been fighting the whole time. Then you will understand the intensity with which they have always been fighting you.
Imagine a bright light and a mushroom cloud and the feeling that all you ever were and were going to be was about to be nuked out forever, momentarily. You're not going to think "I should have voted harder for Kamala Harris". You're not going to think "Deuces was right". You're going to think "I'm an insane idiot for not throwing all those evil ****s out of office and into a noose and now it's too late."
Voting 3rd party is not synonymous with voting with your heart. Voting 3rd party is a strategy, one which could have been used to avoid a situation where either party you vote for wants to let corporations enslave you and support genocidal ethnic cleansing.2024 is an example of what happens when you let things slide too far by way of learned acquiescence, by compromising again
Voting 3rd party in 2016 was a strategy. The strategy was if Johnson got 5%, a third party gets federal funding in the 2020 election and equal debates. That was the election with the best chance of 3rd party winning in recent times, so it made sense to throw away a vote in 2016 to have a main 3rd party candidate in 2020 to bring the other two sides in closer to the middle. Voting Harris in 2024 was a strategy to escape pure evil. Voting 3rd party was just giving your vote to Trump, so enjoy the collapse of America as you pat yourself on the back over your ideals.
I find it funny that elections are literally being won and lost on the trans issue and the liberals on this forum don’t want to talk about it.
That seems to me to be a pretty superficial take.
Elections are first and foremost based upon matters related to survival and many Americans are feeling that their survival is being neglected as a result of a half century of wealth and income concentration into fewer and fewer hands.
The pack has evolved mechanisms for revolution in the event of such circumstances. We see the relatively peaceful example of the New Deal under FDR and we see violent revolution as another pathway with many historical examples.
Trump and his allies offer the latter example. The Democratic political establishment doesn't offer either and spends its most vital energy opposing an FDR type who would offer the more progressive peaceful kind of domestic leadership.
The trans issue is something right wing media amplifies in order to distract from the malignant reality of income and wealth concentration. Serious minded people don't vote on trans issues. It's a topic for tribal zombies who can not be reasoned with under any circumstances.
Trump's appeal is that he will destroy the version of America which has a congressional approval rating hovering around 20%. Trump is a wrecking ball and he's good at wrecking ****. We've made out primary global alliance with Israel, a country which is committing a genocide. That ruins a lot of good will with global allies. We are no longer a nation which other nations regard as willing to respect their boundaries with allies like Canada and Denmark (Greenland).
This administration has completely wrecked American credibility with respect to longstanding global alliances and indicating that they are subscribing to an attitude which conforms to the law of the jungle. Might makes right.
In a global theater, cooperation, influence and some level of trust has been part of our historic mightiness. We're wrecking the old world order and making way for a nation like China to be considered as a better and more stable nation around which to organize a new world order.
I find it funny that elections are literally being won and lost on the trans issue and the liberals on this forum don’t want to talk about it.
You are mistaking an aversion to talking about the issue in general with an aversion to talking about the issue on this forum. This forum has a long history of being unable to discuss that specific issue in even a remotely productive way. I have no aversion to discussing transgender rights irl with friends and acquaintances.
Also, if we were talking purely about political strategy, there is a good argument that Democrats need to spend more time talking about economic issues and less time talking about social issues.
Maybe you should have nipped it in the bud since it was a reply from lozen to you that started it itt:
I don't think I've ever bought more than maybe ten Bible's in any one day. I'd certainly like to be able to buy 72 Bible's at once though.
addendum: the "some reason" is that I give most of them away.
I get a kick out the folks mocking your religious ideology yet they believe men can get pregnant and God forbid you make fun of them
That's just baiting. What's someone who disagrees supposed to do, sit on their hands?
Sorry, no. checkraisdraw has every right to defend his opposing position considering the context as he did with his conditional argument.
Maybe you should have nipped it in the bud since it was a reply from lozen to you that started it itt:
That's just baiting. What's someone who disagrees supposed to do, sit on their hands?
Sorry, no. checkraisdraw has every right to defend his opposing position considering the context as he did with his conditional argument.
Huh?
For once in my life, I'm totally innocent here.
My post had literally nothing to do with the trans issue.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You are mistaking an aversion to talking about the issue in general with an aversion to talking about the issue on this forum. This forum has a long history of being unable to discuss that specific issue in even a remotely productive way. I have no aversion to discussing transgender rights irl with friends and acquaintances.Also, if we were talking purely about political stra
I think it’s pretty pervasive online to not want to discuss the issue at all, either because people don’t want to “platform” transphobes or because they think that even discussing it is giving the issue too much oxygen than it’s worth. That seems to be the preferred strategy of Dems the last two cycles (“why are we even talking about an issue that affects nobody?”).
Not sure what your friend group is like but if they are similar to you in opinion about the issue then there’s not really much to discuss other than lamenting the erosion of trans rights over the last few years.
I find it funny that elections are literally being won and lost on the trans issue and the liberals on this forum don’t want to talk about it. Meanwhile you have guys like corpse walking around in a ridiculous delusion apparently that people think biological natal males can get pregnant.
It’s sort of sad that the attitude is so pervasive.
I do not think its a top ten issue but folks will choose who they may not vote for based on that issue or abortion.
It will always come down to the economy for many and last election that and the border
Though Texas is a great example James Talirico will represent the Dems for the senate and I like what I hear from him and he may have had a slim chance to win but saying God is non binary pretty much sealed his fate
What’s the fundamental truth that people are denying when they say that trans men can get pregnant? I’m not understanding at all, can you explain that to me? Are you thinking that they think that people born as biological males can get pregnant?
They seem to think that trns men are just the same as actual me ergo "men" can get pregnant and that's just bullshit and for the last time I'm not even getting into this with you. Men can't get pregnant and I'm not interested in your gaslighting or your attempt to derail this thread in order to turn it into yet another trans thread. Think what you like and I'll keep observing reality. Don't expect others to deny reality to pander to ideological based arguments.
Though Texas is a great example James Talirico will represent the Dems for the senate and I like what I hear from him and he may have had a slim chance to win but saying God is non binary pretty much sealed his fate
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: God is neither man nor woman and is beyond human distinctions of sex.
Approximate shares of the total population:
Evangelical Protestant: 25-27%
Catholic: 20–25%
Mainline Protestant: ~10–13%
Black Protestant churches: ~6–8%
And 25-30% of Texans aren't religious.
This makes me reconsider my position. Trans for everyone!!!
They seem to think that trns men are just the same as actual me ergo "men" can get pregnant and that's just bullshit and for the last time I'm not even getting into this with you. Men can't get pregnant and I'm not interested in your gaslighting or your attempt to derail this thread in order to turn it into yet another trans thread. Think what you like and
In reality, some biological females call themselves men, and some biological males do too. So in reality, some men can get pregnant and some can't.
They seem to think that trns men are just the same as actual me ergo "men" can get pregnant and that's just bullshit and for the last time I'm not even getting into this with you. Men can't get pregnant and I'm not interested in your gaslighting or your attempt to derail this thread in order to turn it into yet another trans thread. Think what you like and I'll keep observing
What’s bullshit about it? If they are using the word “man” in a sense that includes “trans men” as a subset of the “man” gender, then it would follow from that “some men can get pregnant” is true. That’s by definition.
Are you under the impression that they believe something false, and if so what is that false belief?
