Do you finally regret supporting Donald Trump?
No supporting OP needed
Such a weird thread on a board that is overwhelmingly anti Trump. But almost the Trump supporters I meet in real life love the job he is doing because he is getting illegals out of the country.
Such a weird thread on a board that is overwhelmingly anti Trump. But almost the Trump supporters I meet in real life love the job he is doing because he is getting illegals out of the country.
I’m sure there are many Trump supporters on a poker forum, kind of weird for them not to want to come debate the issue.
And Trump hasn’t been successful at deporting the level of illegals he promised, but I guess you shouldn’t let truth interrupt your narrative 😀
I was responding to Ecrit, not you and my response was to point out that men can't get pregnant. And just in advance I'm not derailing this into trans thread #298 either. Men can't get pregnant. Biological females who identify as men can get pregnant but actual men can't. That's it.
P1 If it is possible for some trans men to get pregnant, then it is possible for some men to get pregnant.
P2 It is possible for some trans men to get pregnant
C It is possible for some men to get pregnant.
^ Which premise of this valid argument do you disagree with.
I don't agree it's valid on its face because not all adjectives preserve the categorical subject, eg: All decoy ducks are ducks.
i don't "finally" regret anything. it took roughly a few weeks of following national politics to realize i'd made an error in voting period. yes i voted trump.
Deadass? You voted Trump in 2024?
I totally own what I done did.
And, yes, I claim my prize I so justly deserve.
That said, I wasn't expecting Forever Wars (TM Pending)
Full disclosure: I am a clown.
And yet again, if the election were to happen again today, knowing what you know now and you had to choose Harris or Trump, you'd choose Trump again.
That's some serious dedication to your bigotry.
Most middle class Republican voters are fairly reasonable - they are struggling financially and are sick of giving handouts to people who won't work, don't want men dressed up in provocative clothing reading books to their kids, they support laws/rules being followed,etc. These are all standard reasonable requests but Dems in the media are lunatics - they need a moderate to pul
Lol. If you're struggling, it's not because of taxes going to fund Wheels On Meals - it's because of chit like spending a billion dollars a day on a war and billionaires profiting from that war off your back while you cheer on Trump and hopes he gives you a reach around.
Not Brian James? Mongo was banned, too?
Such a weird thread on a board that is overwhelmingly anti Trump. But almost the Trump supporters I meet in real life love the job he is doing because he is getting illegals out of the country.
There might be a very slight tick downward after the war but I'm pretty sure most are on board and will stay on board unless Trump morphs into a liberal or something.
That would be incredible, actually. Modern day Nazis are none too pleased with the US going to war to protect Israel. I believe he was in defense of Gaza for obvious reasons.
...I mean, he was arguing along with Deuces that Israel was basically behind 911 with the space laser talk so I guess he'd be correct in his belief if he came here to state the US and ISArael has the most powerful military in the world but usually they don't flaunt like that. It's usually more about how bicyclists and jet skiers would be able to take them down if they wanted.
I was responding to Ecrit, not you and my response was to point out that men can't get pregnant. And just in advance I'm not derailing this into trans thread #298 either. Men can't get pregnant. Biological females who identify as men can get pregnant but actual men can't. That's it.
Biological females who identify as men are not the same as trans men. Trans men take hormones and transition socially, they don’t just identify as men.
And I never said you were responding to me, but you responded to a post that was quoting me denying the conclusion of my argument without addressing my argument,
I don't agree it's valid on its face because not all adjectives preserve the categorical subject, eg: All decoy ducks are ducks.
You would just be disagreeing with premise 1 then. It is valid on the way I am using the terms, you are making a false comparison. Trans men and biological men share in the category of men, the gender.
Biological females who identify as men are not the same as trans men. Trans men take hormones and transition socially, they don’t just identify as men.
Don't be daft. They can just self-identify. There is no objective measure.
Trans men and biological men share in the category of men, the gender.
Gender is imaginary, a noumenon and not a phenomenon, so you can say anything you like about it. In UK law, fortunately, the only standard is biological sex. (See the Supreme Court in For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers, 2025.)
I could be wrong, but I don't think mongidig was banned. He complained several times that a few of his comments had been misconstrued as date rape adjacent and caused him to be generally misunderstood.
A futile attempt at rebranding was probably inevitable.
His rebranding needs rebranding as he simply comes across as Mongi with a new username.
Biological females who identify as men are not the same as trans men. Trans men take hormones and transition socially, they don’t just identify as men.
And I never said you were responding to me, but you responded to a post that was quoting me denying the conclusion of my argument without addressing my argument,
I haven't even examined your argument. Men can't gt pregnant. Again that's it. Can't put it any plainer than that.
Lol. If you're struggling, it's not because of taxes going to fund Wheels On Meals - it's because of chit like spending a billion dollars a day on a war and billionaires profiting from that war off your back while you cheer on Trump and hopes he gives you a reach around.
Got it so you feel the same regarding Obama? He dropped bombs on 7 countries in one year without congressional approval but that's cool right? Just when Trump does it you get sad?
If you’re going to imply someone is daft, you probably should try to have some reading comprehension. I said “biological females who identify as men are not the same as trans men”. Meaning simply identifying as a man while being a biological female is not a sufficient condition to be a trans man. It is a necessary condition but not sufficient.
Gender is imaginary, a noumenon and not a phenomenon, so you can say anything you like about it.
LOL @ the bolded. The anti-trans are not sending their best. Please look up terms before you use them or else you’ll look “daft” as you said.
And of course you can (in a logical possibility sense) say anything you want about gender. If your goals are competently using the english language you probably shouldn’t though.
In UK law, fortunately, the only standard is biological sex. (See the Supreme Court in For Women Scotland v The Scottish Ministers, 2025.)
I have no idea if that’s true (I doubt it) but I’m talking about what the proper way of thinking about it descriptively is, not what the UK law is.
I haven't even examined your argument. Men can't gt pregnant. Again that's it. Can't put it any plainer than that.
It’s considered bad form in philosophy to deny the conclusion of an argument while not denying its premises.
Also I wouldn’t contest that if you include in your definition of man that one of the necessary conditions is they can’t get pregnant then sure, but that would be equivocation.
Got it so you feel the same regarding Obama? He dropped bombs on 7 countries in one year without congressional approval but that's cool right? Just when Trump does it you get sad?
Obama Libya war went on 8 months and had boots on the ground with no Congressional approval. Let's remember when Democrats do it it's ok when Trump does it it's criminal
How much did the Dems spend on Ukraine ?
Got it so you feel the same regarding Obama? He dropped bombs on 7 countries in one year without congressional approval but that's cool right? Just when Trump does it you get sad?
I think you're confused. You were the one who gets sad about money going on "handouts". He was pointing out that a lot more money goes on wars than on handouts. He didn't say he was sad about it. Glad I could help.
Got it so you feel the same regarding Obama? He dropped bombs on 7 countries in one year without congressional approval but that's cool right? Just when Trump does it you get sad?
People aren't even complaining about Trump launching more sir strikes in his first 4 months even before the Iran invasion than Biden did in 4 years.
You would just be disagreeing with premise 1 then. It is valid on the way I am using the terms, you are making a false comparison. Trans men and biological men share in the category of men, the gender.
I basically agree with 1. But you opened the door for me to be a nit here: Your argument is only valid in the symbolic logic framework; it’s invalid with natural language logic.
Natural language doesn’t automatically treat “trans men” as a subset of “men." So the argument doesn’t logically compel the conclusion unless we accept that assumption. Because when you try to render the argument as a syllogism, the category shift introduces an effective fourth term:
• Major term: men
• Minor term: trans men
• Middle term: capable-of-pregnancy
• Hidden category distinction: whether “men” includes trans men.
This violates the classical three-term requirement for valid syllogisms. So from a natural-language (Aristotelian) perspective, the argument is invalid.[/nit]
Do the numbers even support that hes actually getting illegals out of the country?
Got it so you feel the same regarding Obama? He dropped bombs on 7 countries in one year without congressional approval but that's cool right? Just when Trump does it you get sad?
Obama? I think I was born the year he left office; da fukk you bringing his name up for?
If any president decides to use the military against another country, there better be a damn good reason for doing it. So far, we've gotten about 5 different reasons for why the US is bombing Iran, and every single reason has been debunked either by Trump or his own administration.
If you're not sad about the very young US military members getting killed (I won't mention the 150+ Iranian girls between the ages of 7 & 13 getting blown to pieces while in school because you certainly don't give a chit about them), we're 39 trillion in debt and we're spending a billion dollars a day on another country's war. Did you forget you Trump cock smokers were against starting wars and said Harris would have 100% started a war with Iran if she won?
Trump has not only done that but has his eyes on Cuba, Mexico, Ecuador, and the list goes on. Pretty easy to surmise that there's some really, really bad chit in those missing Epstein documents.
I'll 100% support this war if when boots are put on the ground, Barron, as well as every other adult kid in this administration, suits up in fatigues and is given an M27 and a crucifix.
I think you're confused. You were the one who gets sad about money going on "handouts". He was pointing out that a lot more money goes on wars than on handouts. He didn't say he was sad about it. Glad I could help.
Yeah, he's worried about middle class struggles while people were booted off their healthcare, old disabled people lost their meal program, and they cut pediatric cancer research so that they could fund an additional tax break for billionaires.
