QQ 4-ways with SPR of 1.3 on 874, 2-flush flop
1/3 NL. BB (270), about 60 yo, seems to play a standard aggressive preflop game, but really seems like a whale. Calls do
This is not YOUR board. If you’re playing ranges, easy check 4-way and bet safe turns if checked to again.
Obviously not my board. Obviously would check the flop if deeper.
I didn't think I was trying to tell you anything. I know I'm not a nit. But if that's how you see me, not much I can do about it, I s'pose.In the 1/3 games I play, a jam here rarely gets called by worse when the pot goes four ways to the flop. This board just smacks all the fishy ranges that get to the flop the way our opponents got to this one.This isn't going to be a 4-way al
Jack ten off :OOOOOO
Correct that when I bet this board it is sort of obvious I have a big pair, and 99-JJ "should" fold. However, they may not be good at hand reading, and I needed to protect against draws.
It is most likely I have a big pair, but when I bet or put money in on that board, I could also have a flush draw and be semibluffing. Technically, I could have 3! a suited connector or something and hit those low cards/
It is most likely I have a big pair, but when I bet or put money in on that board, I could also have a flush draw and be semibluffing. Technically, I could have 3! a suited connector or something and hit those low cards/
Technically, it's a multi-way pot, so you can rep anything you want, but your opponents will just play their actual hands. You're not folding out very many better hands by turning your hand into a bluff.
Technically, it's a multi-way pot, so you can rep anything you want, but your opponents will just play their actual hands. You're not folding out very many better hands by turning your hand into a bluff.
Obviously, wasn't turning QQ into a bluff or trying to fold out better hands. When I bet, it is likely I have a big pair, but could be semibluffing with a flush draw.
I didn't think I could check in position and give 3 players a free card on a drawy board. When I bet, it looks like JJ-AA, but as you indicated, they may just play their hands. However, some fish are somewhat aware the a preflop 3-bettor may have a big pair.
Don't think checking the flop was an option. I could have shoved or bet smaller.
Obviously, wasn't turning QQ into a bluff or trying to fold out better hands. When I bet, it is likely I have a big pair, but could be semibluffing with a flush draw. I didn't think I could check in position and give 3 players a free card on a drawy board. When I bet, it looks like JJ-AA, but as you indicated, they may just play their hands. However, some fish are somewhat awar
The two schools of thought here appear to be "math dictates action A" and "population reads dictate action B".
If the decision is close, it's likely that the EV difference is minimal. So pick your poison and hope for a good outcome.
The decision is not close between getting your chips in and any line that involves not getting your chips in, and the EV difference is not minimal. It's a massive blunder not to get QQ in at this SPR. Checking flop would definitely be losing EV vs betting.
If you play half-way decent and also jam stuff like flush draws, you should definitely get called by worse. Especially from a guy like this:
" (270), about 60 yo, seems to play a standard aggressive preflop game, but really seems like a whale. Calls down big bets postflop light. Has rebought twice. He 3! JJ. He called a 3! with QJo. "
Even if they all fold, it's a win to pick up all their equity shares and take down the large pot on the flop.
The QJo hand, he raised to 15, I 3! to 45 with AA, he called HU. I bet the Qxx flop for 50 he called. Turn was an ace. I bet 75, and he folded QJo face up saying I had AA or AK.
This was the first 4-way 3-bet pot I had seen in like 3 hours at the table. It made sense in that BB was a fish and called with a pp, knowing it likely was going 3-ways once he called. Obviously, he was way too shallow to set mine. Then the original UTG raiser likely had a premium hand and called. Then UTG+1 had a correct call with immediate pot odds 4-ways with 88. Also, I was 3-betting more than anyone else.
