President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
SRM,
Because you have family in Tehran, I assume you follow Iranian domestic politics more closely and have a better feel for power dynamics within Iran than I do. If Khameini is already dead, or if he is killed in a follow up strike in the next few days, what do you expect to happen internally in Iran?
Nothing good
To wipe out the regime you need to take them all. If khameni is dead the mullahs have enough of a stranglehold on the government that he is replaced by a more radicalized ayatollah declaring khameni a martyr
What Israel wants is an abolishment of the theocracy, which, in theory I agree with cuz **** the mujihadeen, but they are running out of resources, have run out of water in most places, and are a gigantic population in the region. Even taking bibi and trump at face value like a delusional sycophant and envisioning a truly democratic iran being the end result, to get there will create the largest humanitarian crisis the Middle East has ever seen and the entire populace of iran will likely be refugees scattering the region, which becomes even more of a problem when you factor in the hatred between Shiites and Sunnis and factor in that 90+% of the Shiite population resides in iran
To be clear, I have spent my entire adult life wishing death on khameni, but the forced overthrow, especially by Israel and America, is the worst possible option
OK.
Do you support Sklansky's(?) idea that a certain IQ threshold should be met in order to legally vote?
Of course not. I just wish the country wasn't infested by people stupid enough to vote for Donald Trump and say stuff like "your prediction was wrong so you shouldn't be concerned with fascism."
I wish that I could say I was surprised, but I'm not at all surprised. Trump getting heady about the use of military power after what I'm sure he viewed as a flawless operation to capture Maduro was the most predictable development ever. But Trump shouldn't have taken anything away from the military's ability to capture Maduro in a tactical operation. The U.S.'s ability to a
I don’t think it’s about having less accountability, it’s about having less restraints. It seems this is the time to strike. Regime change is within reach. I don’t know how anybody would argue getting rid of these tyrants wouldn’t be a good thing. Given how many Iranian civilians have been killed I think it would be far worse if the US just abandoned them.
I have no doubt Trump is capable of making decisions solely for his benefit but I don’t think this is one of them.
Nothing goodTo wipe out the regime you need to take them all. If khameni is dead the mullahs have enough of a stranglehold on the government that he is replaced by a more radicalized ayatollah declaring khameni a martyrWhat Israel wants is an abolishment of the theocracy, which, in theory I agree with cuz **** the mujihadeen, but they are running out of resources, have run out
You would think the US has thought about all of this but who knows. This may end up being something that benefits Israel and the US in the short term but ends up being very bad for the Iranian people.
Thanks for sharing.
You would think the US has thought about all of this but who knows. This may end up being something that benefits Israel and the US in the short term but ends up being very bad for the Iranian people.
Thanks for sharing.
If you believe what’s been reported, yes, the US has definitely thought about all this. Which is why most generals of consequence said this was a terrible idea
But here we are with Bibi’s fleshlight as commander in chief
If, by regime change, you mean killing Khameini, then regime change is in reach now and has been in reach for many, many years. But that just begs the question. Regime change into what?
If, by regime change, you mean change into a durable democracy, I am much, much more skeptical.
If, by regime change, you mean killing Khameini, then regime change is in reach now and has been in reach for many, many years. But that just begs the question. Regime change into what?
If, by regime change, you mean change into a durable democracy, I am much, much more skeptical.
It’s impossible to overstate how bad this is
Even with obama’s nuclear deal in place, the economy was in shambles. When trump ripped it up for no other reason than pettiness it got even worse
From there, economic unrest has reached a fever pitch and climate change has turned the country into a truly inhabitable desert
No matter how bad khameni is to the country, there’s still as much stability within the region as is possible by at least having a government intact. Turning the 2nd largest country in the Middle East into complete hell and creating a power vacuum in hell is not something the world is prepared for
Nothing goodTo wipe out the regime you need to take them all. If khameni is dead the mullahs have enough of a stranglehold on the government that he is replaced by a more radicalized ayatollah declaring khameni a martyrWhat Israel wants is an abolishment of the theocracy, which, in theory I agree with cuz **** the mujihadeen, but they are running out of resources, have run out
Thanks. I am not surprised by anything you wrote. Your observation that the Sunni/Shiite dynamic would be an exacerbating factor in any refugee crisis is an important point that I suspect most Americans do not appreciate.
It’s impossible to overstate how bad this isEven with obama’s nuclear deal in place, the economy was in shambles. When trump ripped it up for no other reason than pettiness it got even worseFrom there, economic unrest has reached a fever pitch and climate change has turned the country into a truly inhabitable desertNo matter how bad khameni is to the country, there’s still as m
To the point I just made, Iran is a much bigger country, with a much bigger economy and a much bigger population, than most Americans realize.
For people like Victor and that blind blah blah blah genocide ilk, I just don’t wanna ****ing hear it
The ultimate can’t see the forest through the trees sea of abject stupidity made even more laughable that it was a midwestern white guy telling people you’re supporting GENOCIDE and something something BLUEMAGA by not allowing trump to be elected
Just truly and completely irredeemable human garbage
Even reading jalfrezi’s posts, who seems for the most part to be a sane and reasonable person, assert that this was inevitable no matter what
lol no it ****ing wasn’t. Nobody but trump is belligerent or stupid enough to have done this
If, by regime change, you mean killing Khameini, then regime change is in reach now and has been in reach for many, many years. But that just begs the question. Regime change into what?
If, by regime change, you mean change into a durable democracy, I am much, much more skeptical.
I’m not overly confident about how this will all turn out. I’m hopeful at minimum this will strike a big blow to Irans ability to conduct proxy wars. Best case is that a durable democracy will be put into place. I’m skeptical that the best case scenario will happen. History says it won’t.
For people like Victor and that blind blah blah blah genocide ilk, I just don’t wanna ****ing hear itThe ultimate can’t see the forest through the trees sea of abject stupidity made even more laughable that it was a midwestern white guy telling people you’re supporting GENOCIDE and something something BLUEMAGA by not allowing trump to be elected
you spent the last 2 years laughing about kids in Gaza getting blown to bits so I think you are the one who should save it.
Homie with no due respect at all
**** you, every last ****ing thing you hold dear, and I only believe in god enough to pray you crawl through glass in hell
Continue sitting at your computer eating Doritos praying to be the smartest guy on the Internet you ****ing pos
Last response you ever get from me and absolute last time I ever reference you, consider that before you respond
Homie with no due respect at all
**** you, every last ****ing thing you hold dear, and I only believe in god enough to pray you crawl through glass in hell
Continue sitting at your computer eating Doritos praying to be the smartest guy on the Internet you ****ing pos
Last response you ever get from me and absolute last time I ever reference you, consider that before you respond
this is you right?
Somewhere Comrade Vic is saying it’s ok cuz Kamabla woulda dropped a nuke on Tehran by now
GENOCIDE!
Victor: if Dems cared so much about kids getting diddled why did they agree to GENOCIDE?!
wHy DiD bIdEnKaMaLa Do ThIs
HoW dArE yOu BlAme TrUmP wHiLe GenOCIDe And UkRaiNe is EXIStenTiaL tHrEAt tO rUsSiA!
just making sure its the same person that literally joked about the slaughter of people in Gaza today.
He’s joking about you, Victor, not actual genocide.
This is pretty obvious, bare minimum of literacy required.
I’m not overly confident about how this will all turn out. I’m hopeful at minimum this will strike a big blow to Irans ability to conduct proxy wars. Best case is that a durable democracy will be put into place. I’m skeptical that the best case scenario will happen. History says it won’t.
This just isn't happening. Khamenei has lived with immense power and status for decades and there will be no shortage of people who dream of someday being in that position. It's also something that has very likely been discussed and arranged and all of that long ago. It's going to have to require internal pressure from its people and Ali and Co has no problem killing em all to keep that power.
Homie with no due respect at all
**** you, every last ****ing thing you hold dear, and I only believe in god enough to pray you crawl through glass in hell
Continue sitting at your computer eating Doritos praying to be the smartest guy on the Internet you ****ing pos
Last response you ever get from me and absolute last time I ever reference you, consider that before you respond
I'm almost certain this won't age well.
This just isn't happening. Khamenei has lived with immense power and status for decades and there will be no shortage of people who dream of someday being in that position. It's also something that has very likely been discussed and arranged and all of that long ago. It's going to have to require internal pressure from its people and Ali and Co has no problem killing em all
This
Anyone who thinks it’s as simple as killing khameni has zero understanding of the Iranian ecosystem since the revolution
Which is fine, I wouldn’t have understanding of it if I didn’t pay attention to this country cuz, you know, birth, so it’s not like I’d expect your average 2+2 poster to pay attention
But I am certain the military is littered with leaders who understand this which is why until now this was never done regardless of saber rattling
