President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
These are the kind of posts I was referencing when I said I simplified my argument due to my audience.
Bold move, really
After all, what is logic and basic intelligence when you can cast both aside in favor of having your mind be a toilet for MAGA talking points
I don't hear everything trump says (or whoever else is included in maga in your mind), but I don't recall hearing anyone you may consider as maga say tariffs aren't inflationary.
Then tax increases don't reduce purchasing power because you have less money left to buy items after taxes and those prices are forced down. 60+ years of right wing policy and economics debunked just because you're trying to defend nonsensical Trump policies.
Income taxes are designed to take money away from the hardest working and smartest people in our society to give to those who don't work as hard and aren't as smart. Therefore, you are taking away purchasing power from those who work hard so you can give that purchasing power to those who don't work hard. (Please save me the story about how your neighbor is rich and lazy - in a country of 340M people there are exceptions to every rule.)
Anytime you take money away from the smartest, hardest working and most efficient and give it to those who are less smart, don't work as hard and less efficient it is bad for economic growth.
For the record, I am not defending tariffs. I am probably more opposed to them than anyone in this thread. However, that doesn't change the fact that they aren't inflationary.
Note to FBI agents: Don't investigate Donald Trump.
The FBI has fired roughly 10 members, all of whom participated in a probe into Donald Trump's handling of classified documents after his first term.
Patel did not offer any evidence of wrongdoing by the FBI employees who were fired.
An advocacy group representing current and former FBI employees condemned the firings.
"These actions weaken the Bureau by stripping away critical expertise and destabilizing the workforce, undermining trust in leadership and jeopardizing the Bureau's ability to meet its recruitment goals - ultimately putting the nation at greater risk," the FBI Agents Association said in a statement.
Rainingmen, did you read my last post (the one before you called me "the stupidest idiot on the forum") where I linked an article talking about how a san fran federal reserve study found that tariffs are not inflationary? Why don't you lay down and tell us how that made you feel?I'm not sure you want to debate if repubs are dems policies are more pro economic growth. There is a
Maybe they are more pro economic growth, but it doesn't happen under their leadership. Are you stuck in the 60's man? That fallacy was true for a minute, but it's not actually been reality for a long time now. And people are slowly catching up. People making 100k+ vote more democratic than republican. People making less than that vote more republican.
Post WWII, GDP growth under democratic administrations has averaged 4.3%
Under Republicans, 2.4%.
Blue states vastly outperform red states economically.
I'm just curious, because I knew some of you still existed, but what do you point to specifically to indicate economic growth is better under Republican policy?
These are the kind of posts I was referencing when I said I simplified my argument due to my audience. I don't hear everything trump says (or whoever else is included in maga in your mind), but I don't recall hearing anyone you may consider as maga say tariffs aren't inflationary. Income taxes are designed to take money away from the hardest working and smartest people in our s
Wow... you got some really antiquated fallacies rumbling around in your skull.
You live in the information age... at least ask some AI you trust: Do tariffs often contribute to inflation?
Are you an example of the lazy person, not wanting to learn or work hard? I mean, what's going on here? Or maybe it takes serious effort to remain this misinformed? I dunno.
bahbahmickey thinks the oil price shocks in the 70s didn't cause inflation because the price of everything but oil went down.
Maybe they are more pro economic growth, but it doesn't happen under their leadership. Are you stuck in the 60's man? That fallacy was true for a minute, but it's not actually been reality for a long time now. And people are slowly catching up. People making 100k+ vote more democratic than republican. People making less than that vote more republican. Post WWII, GDP growth unde
Freak, you can claim you have a decent understanding of economics or you can contribute economic growth under a presidents' term to that president. You can not do both. Even some of the least knowledgeable posters ITT know many economic policies takes decades to be fully realized.
As a second point I'd add that a good example of an individual policy the two parties differ on and they have great short term growth prospects but terrible long-term growth implications think about growing the size of govt. Dems tend to love hiring as many people as they can in govt and repubs generally like cutting the fed workforce. Hiring people and paying them is great short term but long-term it crowds out the private market leading to less long-term GDP growth. So when trump fires a bunch of fed employees it is bad for short term growth but great for long-term.
Wow... you got some really antiquated fallacies rumbling around in your skull.
You live in the information age... at least ask some AI you trust: Do tariffs often contribute to inflation?
Are you an example of the lazy person, not wanting to learn or work hard? I mean, what's going on here? Or maybe it takes serious effort to remain this misinformed? I dunno.
It is so un-antiquated of you to trust AI over the san fran federal reserve's study if tariffs cause inflation.
It is so un-antiquated of you to trust AI over the san fran federal reserve's study if tariffs cause inflation.
You can't be for real.
You just can't... I don't want to believe it.
I didn't say president. I said administration. But if you want to switch topics for the 3rd time already, do you think Trump putting tariffs on countries at whim, and taking them randomly off, then back on, has any effect?
‘You guys are being super reactive calling a policy disastrous without letting it cook for a few decades as everyone knows you have to’
‘You guys are being super reactive calling a policy disastrous without letting it cook for a few decades as everyone knows you have to’
True... damn history and basic economic theory.
These are the kind of posts I was referencing when I said I simplified my argument due to my audience. I don't hear everything trump says (or whoever else is included in maga in your mind), but I don't recall hearing anyone you may consider as maga say tariffs aren't inflationary. Income taxes are designed to take money away from the hardest working and smartest people in our s
Smh.
Chatgpt Pro Prompt: Do tariffs contribute to inflation?
Point blank answer: Yes, tariffs often contribute to inflation, at least in the short to medium term.
Now let’s unpack that carefully, because “often” does not mean “always,” and the mechanism matters.
1. The Basic Mechanism
A tariff is a tax on imported goods.
If the U.S. places a 20% tariff on imported steel, for example:
Importers pay more.
They usually pass some or all of that cost to manufacturers.
Manufacturers pass it to retailers.
Retailers pass it to consumers.
That shows up as higher prices.
That is textbook cost-push inflation.
2. What Happened Recently?
During the 2018–2019 trade war under Donald Trump, tariffs were placed on hundreds of billions of dollars of Chinese goods.
Multiple studies found:
The majority of the tariff cost was borne by U.S. importers and consumers.
Prices of affected goods rose.
U.S. manufacturers using imported inputs also faced higher costs.
The Federal Reserve and independent economists generally concluded the tariffs were mildly inflationary.
Not hyperinflationary.
But directionally upward.
Sources:
https://www.nber.org/system/files/workin...
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.12...
Income taxes are designed to take money away from the hardest working and smartest people in our society to give to those who don't work as hard and aren't as smart. Therefore, you are taking away purchasing power from those who work hard so you can give that purchasing power to those who don't work hard. (Please save me the story about how your neighbor is rich and lazy - in a
Literally what tariffs are designed to do. Take money from productive, innovate companies and give it to lazy/dumb companies that can't compete without hand outs. The whole point of tariffs is to subsidize rurals in the manufacturing that aren't smart and hard working enough to innovate.
For the record, I am not defending tariffs. I am probably more opposed to them than anyone in this thread. However, that doesn't change the fact that they aren't inflationary.
Obviously not because you see tariffs are radically different from tax increases when both reduce purchasing power and take resources from people you consider smart and productive and give it to more Trump friendly demos.
It is so un-antiquated of you to trust AI over the san fran federal reserve's study if tariffs cause inflation.
You've already been told that you didn't read that article correctly. It doesn't support you.
Rainingmen, did you read my last post (the one before you called me "the stupidest idiot on the forum") where I linked an article talking about how a san fran federal reserve study found that tariffs are not inflationary? Why don't you lay down and tell us how that made you feel?
The Reuters article on the SF Fed said tariffs may reduce inflation by causing high unemployment. If you don't think tariffs are inflationary, you think Trump's policies are designed to raise unemployment. Trump does very well in highly unproductive rural areas like West Virginia and terrible in productive places like NYC and SF, so it makes sense, but even conservatives usually are smart enough not to outright say it.
Somewhere Comrade Vic is saying it’s ok cuz Kamabla woulda dropped a nuke on Tehran by now
GENOCIDE!
‘The Iranian regime seeks to kill. The lives of courageous American heroes may be lost and we may have casualties — that often happens in war — but we’re doing this not for now. We’re doing this for the future, and it is a noble mission’
-Donnie the Dove
Also the literal comedy of a draft dodger basically saying ‘some of you may die, but that’s a chance I’m willing to take’
Somewhere Comrade Vic is saying it’s ok cuz Kamabla woulda dropped a nuke on Tehran by now
GENOCIDE!
and you would have been fine with it. just like you were fine with the extermination projects that the Dems oversaw in Gaza and South Lebanon and Syria.
I eagerly await Blahblah coming in to say trump isn’t engaging in war, this is just a negotiation tactic to lower the price of oil or something
Crypto shitbros for trump: btc now 10% below Election Day levels, 40% below inauguration levels and almost down 50% so far this year
Gaza shitbros for trump: seriously, great job guys. The entire Middle East is now going to be completely destabilized cuz bibi has his hand up trump’s ass like a puppet. Glad you got everything you ever wanted
Immigration shitbros for trump: well done
Economy shitbros for trump: SUPER well done
Isolationalist shitbros for trump: SUPER DUPER well done
‘I have absolutely nothing in life and just wanna make the libz mad’ shitbros for trump: well I guess you got exactly what you voted for, so I mean, I guess you won
