NBA 2025-26 Season Thread: THE NY KNICKS ARE CHAMPIONS! BING BONG!
Lettuce NBA!
and lettuce lol @ James Harden
I just don't think of them as top of the league rebounders and/or getting more than say 3.5 assists (and unless wrong I think of Dirk as closer to 3 on the high end).
KG wasn't that prolific of a scorer either.
Lebron 26.9/7.5/7.4 in 1603 games = 66,840
Kareem 24.6/11.2/3.6 in 1560 games = 61,527
Karl Malone 25.0/10.1/3.6 in 1462 games = 57,144
Magic 19.5/7.2/11.2 in 906 games = 34,407 (not enough games)
Garnett 17.8/10.0/3.7 in 1462 games = 46,178
Dirk 20.7/7.5/2.4 in 1522 games = 46,700
Westbrook 20.9/6.9/8.0 in 1292 games = 46,293
Jordan 30.1/6.2/5.3 in 1062 games = 44,597
Duncan 19.0/10.8/3.0 in 1392 games = 45,812
Carmelo 22.5/6.2/2.7 in 1262 games = 39,519
Barkley 22.1/11.7/3.9 in 1073 games = 40,518
Jason Kidd 12.6/6.3/8.7 in 1391 games = 38,345
Robert Parish 14.5/9.1/1.4 in 1611 games = 40,229
Ewing below 21/9.8/1.9 in 1183 games = 38,629
Stockton 13.1/2.7/10.5 in 1504 games = 39,568
I just don't think of them as top of the league rebounders and/or getting more than say 3.5 assists (and unless wrong I think of Dirk as closer to 3 on the high end).
KG wasn't that prolific of a scorer either.
Not in order, doing quick math in my head on these guys mentioned so far in rough order. Proud to.do things the old fashioned way, no AI and no calculator. Maybe someone else wants to.fix the order and find some missing players in this group.
Lebron 26.9/7.5/7.4 in 1603 games = 66,840
Kareem 24.6/11.2/3.6 in 1560 games = 61,527
Wilt 30.1/22.9/4.4 in 1045 games = 59,986
Karl Malone 25.0/10.1/3.6 in 1462 games = 57,144
Oscar Robertson 25.7/7.5/9.5 in 1040 games = 46,401
Kobe 25.0/5.2/4.7 in 1346 games = 46,996
Dr J 24.2/8.5/4.2 in 1243 games = 45,727
Magic 19.5/7.2/11.2 in 906 games = 34,407 (not enough games)
Garnett 17.8/10.0/3.7 in 1462 games = 46,178
Dirk 20.7/7.5/2.4 in 1522 games = 46,700
Westbrook 20.9/6.9/8.0 in 1292 games = 46,293
Jordan 30.1/6.2/5.3 in 1062 games = 44,597
Duncan 19.0/10.8/3.0 in 1392 games = 45,812
Hakeem 21.8/11.1/2.5 in 1238 games = 43,752
Moses Malone 20.3/12.3/1.3 in 1455 games = 49,350
Shaq 23.7/10.9/2.5 in 1206 ganes = 44,721
Harden 24.5/4.8/8.1 in 1202 games = 44,384
Durant 25.4/5.4/4.5 in 1176 games = 45,208
Carmelo 22.5/6.2/2.7 in 1262 games = 39,519
Barkley 22.1/11.7/3.9 in 1073 games = 40,518
Curry 27.2/3.5/4.8 in 1065 games = 38,133
Jason Kidd 12.6/6.3/8.7 in 1391 games = 38,345
Robert Parish 14.5/9.1/1.4 in 1611 games = 40,229
Ewing 21/9.8/1.9 in 1183 games = 38,629
Stockton 13.1/2.7/10.5 in 1504 games = 39,568
Bill Russel 15.1/22.5/4.3 in 1065 games = 40,242
Bird 24.3/10.0/6.3 in 897 games = 36,460
Jokic 22.1/11.0/7.4 in 787 games = 31,910
humblebrag:
got Spurs 70-1 to title Preseason
and on Oct 23rd, I saw they were 45-1 and sensed it still had value so took them again then
they are currently 10-1 on DK
Chris Paul 16.8/4.4/9.2 in 1370 games = 41,616
Who leads the all-time "points + rebounds + assists" stat?? Let me guess:LeBronKareemChamberlainWestbrookKarl MaloneGarnettOscarJordanKobeDirkDuncanMosesDurantHardenShaqHakeemWho am I leaving out of the Top 15 and who doesn't belong? Too bad we can't include blocked shots across the years. I've heard it said that extrapolated for Chamberlain from the games that are on film, it
Someone asked Bill Russell about his & Wilt’s blocked shot numbers and he laughed and said, “I used to block three shots on one play!”
Jerry West would’ve had a ton a steals.
Am surprised that I would ever agree with you, but this 100% 
It's bizarre that Luka is high on all the MVP lists. He has the highest usage and 2nd highest fga and highest fta in the league. He has a supporting cast that should be decent. And yet his team isn't impressive and is losing to mediocre teams now. No way he should be in MVP discussions even if Jokic, Wemby, and Shai all fall short of the games required.
The Lakers were a much better team with a healthy Davis last year than they are with Luka and other upgrades like Smart this year. The only reason they 'won' that supposedly historic ripoff trade is because Davis is always injured again. Lakers were a legit contender with a healthy Davis, they haven't looked like one at all since that deal.
Magic didn't play nearly long enough.
He’s declining in what should be his physical peak.
He doesn’t play the right way. Whines worse than LeBron (which says a lot). And if his step back 3 isnt falling he usually has a hard time scoring.
He’s the basketball equivalent of fools gold.
Yeah, all-time leader in assists pre-Stockton threw me.
When it comes to that points+rebounds+assists thing, points are really the key. A guy like Jordan gets 30 a game. A 20/10 Duncan type guy needs points+rebounds just to match that.
So guys like Carmelo Anthony and Steph Curry rack up a bigger score much more easily than a rebounder type like a Dwight Howard.
It was interesting to think about how many a player racks up per game. LeBron at 27/7/7 racks up 40+ per game. Jordan 40+ also. A guy like Ewing at 21/10/2 racks up 33 per game. Stockton who scores low on points and rebounds can't make up enough ground on assists to be in upper echelon, even with top end longevity.
