Moderation Questions

Classic d2 player ofc, I always put a pawn there when I'm playing white.

by rickroll m

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13524-017-0611-1

SpringerLink

The Growth, Scope, and Spatial Distribution of People With Felony Records in the United States, 1948–2010 - Demography

“We estimate that 3 % of the total U.S. adult population and 15 % of the African American adult male population has ever been to prison; people with felony convictions account for 8 % of all adults and 33 % of the African American adult male population.“

Seems weird that less than half of the felony convictions actually lead to prison time.

Opportunity missed by rickroll to put the d2 pawn on e4 there, IMO.

you've already put more thought into the image than i have in creating it 😀

nope, when you lead the world in incarceration, you're going to have overflowing prison system

over a third of all felony convictions go straight to probation based on some combo of time served and plea deals (impoverished people who are unable to afford a lawyer often don't get their trials expedited and hence why time served becomes a big outcome in sentencing - it's not uncommon for someone who is arrested for stealing a car to spend 6 months in jail awaiting their trial to begin and complete for a crime that would typically have a 1 year sentence anyway so they are just released on time served with a suspended sentence in the event they violate probation)

given that a predominantly higher share of poor people qualify for the the "time served" situation by not having lawyers to speed up the process, it would make sense that they disproporionately do not see prison time officially

this is particularly prevalent in non-violent crimes

drug dealing, car theft (not hijacking), fraud, forgery, destruction of propery, etc are all often having people released without serving time

things like mugging, rape, murder, armed robbery, home burgalry (even if nobody there) - the more visceral and scary kind of crime we're more incentivized to get them off the streets

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/fsjc...

i often find it surprising how often i'm challenged on basic facts that are easily googled

this was not directed towards you crd - it's a general statement that i often get pushback on things that are not hidden anywhere and people could have simply googled to see for themselves but their bias is so strong that the notion this could be real doesn't take hold and as a result they just dismiss it out hand rather than spend 10 seconds to see for themselves first

and then when they do see the data is real, they try to excuse or justify it the way trolfrezi did

in another thread today, i was literally called a nazi, for no other reason that wealthy elite whites engage in nimby gatekeeping to keep out the poors - it's a well known phenomena that's widely studied called the progressive paradox - but pointing out that wealthy liberal whites are doing more work to push out and exclude poor minorities than conservative red cities are doing gets you called a nazi

I didn’t challenge you on any facts.

But if I wanted to challenge you I’d point out that you were actually wrong, since I asked about 33% of black PEOPLE but then you posted a statistics about 33% of black MEN. That’s only half of black people.

But amp, no one has asked, if the axis of authenticity in the black community isn't criminality, what is it?

Is it The Cosby Show?

First you have to establish if there even is such a thing as 'the black community'

Is this you admitting your mistake? 😉

Guilty please are unsound if they're coerced or the person wasn't correctly informed or competent.

Not a rare occurance I s suspect although very rarely going to help them.

I do not. They are always already united by oppression.

What is an axis of authenticity? I have not heard this term before.

lol, i thought that was a level, who on gods green earth would include women in a discussion of felony convictions?

You’re not tracking. I asked you what 33% of black people are known for, and then you cited a statistic that only covers half of black people. I’m not the one that made some whiny point about the stat being “easily google-able”

Good point. But it's also a great question to ask here as well.

It's an evolving concept I made up earlier.

The metaphor I suppose is a planet. The earth spins around an axis of rotation. A community might spin around an axis of authenticity. How a group knows someone is a member of the group.

Sounds like you just reinvented the shibboleth.

Yes! Ty. Finally someone with education.

Confirmed that Trolly is still a pervert.

Let's not get carried away.

buddy, this was a stupid silly throwaway line from the start - you're reading far too much into a silly comment that was literally this from the start