2/5 AK facing donks from whale
2/5 ~ 7 handed 2 gone forever.
Villian ~ Young asian whale. Sat down like an hour ago. He seems new to casino poker, he
I will no longer defend the presdouce
He thinks one hand of poker is the holy grail
Will no longer interact, just ignore
Has nothing to offer
Doesn’t understand poker discussion
Never heard ‘it depends’ in his little world
Looks like he’s only out to show how smart he his, not working out well for him.
Calling here too - small turn bet
Increased our outs as a 2 gives us the nuts
Might be able to represent the flush if it comes in - still think it’s a weak queen that could be bluffed
90 invested 910 behind
Let’s see a river
All you have to say is ‘fold pre’ that’s your opinion, but don’t try to force your ‘noise’ on the rest of us. If you change, I don’t cancel anyone - if you don’t, are you over 16
Calling here too - small turn bet
Increased our outs as a 2 gives us the nuts
Might be able to represent the flush if it comes in - still think it’s a weak queen that can be bluffed.
A 2 doesn’t give you anything close to the nuts.
V won’t even notice that it’s possible for H to have a flush.
He’s never folding a queen on the river. Hero might be bluffing the new guy.
His line and bet sizing is often bluffy. If we had 99 or better here, it would be a reasonable spot to bluff catch.
When we have AK, even though he can be bluffing here, we only beat bluffs, and it's not impossible for him to be turning something stupid that still beats us into a bluff for some unknown reason.
Probably just fold now.
A 2 doesn't give you anything close to the nuts.
V won't even notice that it's possible for H to have a flush.
He's never folding a queen on the river. Hero might be bluffing the new guy.
I’m just saying there’s lots of ways to beat that queen and if we hit - A, K or 2 - like you say he’s never folding the river - kinda made my point. But you’re right, bluffing likely no good.
You have to be willing to fold AK, but I don’t think every time you miss the flop it’s the right play. Floating the flop, instead of taking back the initiative, since it’s small & we have nothing. The turn is my fit or fold, but he bet really small and I gained some outs.
‘Small bet means small hand’ with so many
Just a side-note; I have seen pros come in and display the same characteristics of this villain acting like they know nothing. It’s quite a show
Could be betting, because everyone keeps folding.
So, river bricks and we fold - maybe went too far with the hand - my reads would have been different than OP and I might have folded on the flop or raised the $20 flop donk to $100.
I can't believe this is the oldest, largest, most well known, and most prolific poker strategy discussion site on the internet, and this is the level of analysis we're at.
You were all spoonfed multiple hand histories that illustrate a villain who only puts in money post-flop with a pair, and check/folds when he doesn't have a pair. I know it's a limited sample size, but we have ZERO experience seeing him bluff and some experience seeing him play straight value. Yet somehow, the most active posters in this thread are all on "Team Bluffcatch". Someone actually said his donk range could be any two cards. What bizarre parallel dimension did I stumble into?
Is anyone concerned at all what might happen if we improve to top pair at any point in this hand? Villain's range definitely has 18 full combos of KQ/AQ. Plus he surely has some A3 and A5 too. Those hands have us absolutely smothered. Everyone keeps talking about 20% equity....that's only if all your outs are clean and they most certainly are not. How many more Qx are you going to give him in order to make your float profitable?? And how much do you expect him to payoff with Q7o when an Ace turns?
the thread title is the most tilting thing ever too.
We have one player betting top pair and one player calling down with ace-high. Who's the whale????
It's a good thing irony can't hurt people. I'd be dead.
Villain also has no nonpair hand on the flop that doesn’t include a 4.
In this spot I would call, you are drawing to TPTK. This almost feels like a PP from whale and he thinks it might be good. See if your hand improves on the turn, evaluate what the whale does on the turn. He might just check the turn, if he does you can get a free card to try to improve on the river.
