Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

How much of the original allegations are actually now denied? Is it not possible that the only thing that has changed is

09 July 2025 at 03:30 PM
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by whatthejish

Love how it’s always, “What will the Dems do to fix this,” instead of, “Why won’t the Republicans stop being evil.”

The Dems don't need to do anything to fix this. They just need to be a little bit less ******ed, and then they can win a few elections and stop the MAGA agenda.

It's a super simple thing to do and I'm pulling for them, but it's not a sure if they're up to it or not.


by lozen

Yes everything you think is evil Obama did as well and heck lets traffic 10,000's of children as Biden did no worries and yes trump is evil

1. That’s another unwarranted “what about” and I thought you were working on that.

2. Your “what about” doesn’t change anything about my statement. People always want to point out what Dems should be fixing, but Repubs get a pass because no one even expects them to act anything other than evil.

Sure, both sides both sides. The two party system is ****ed. But, it’s arguably many miles more ****ed when the general populace has simply accepted that one of the parties won’t ever actually do anything productive.


by corpus vile

You don't know that all of it happened 30 years ago. Is it your contention that nobody else apart from Epstein and Maxwell were guilty? Andrew really was just at pizza hut? I'm not saying it won't disappear, I'm just wondering if you think the two guilty parties were the only guilty ones.

The fact is that the best evidence of sexual assault or rape is generally lost after the first 24 hours. A statutory rape case plays better when the victims are still minors, not 30 year olds. I read that the estate of JE has paid out 49 million to the victims but also that over 150 million in settlements have been paid, I am sure with NDA and confidentiality provisions. Couple this with the general wealth and vigorous defense these billionaires will wage with the Justice Department, there is little to gain from criminally prosecuting the other predators other than to prove that the law applies equally to everyone. I would expect a conviction rat3 of less than 10%.

I would like to see some charges brought simply to chase these people out of the limelight and public sector, even if that is all it accomplishes.


by campfirewest

The Dems don't need to do anything to fix this. They just need to be a little bit less ******ed, and then they can win a few elections and stop the MAGA agenda.

It's a super simple thing to do and I'm pulling for them, but it's not a sure if they're up to it or not.

hes so close to getting it

Spoiler
Show

he will never get it


by lozen

Redacted though of things that should not be redacted

Yeah, once the Dems are in control, 3 million pages of Trump's name in the files will be unredacted. That could be as soon as the end of this year.

I like how when I asked you what "local factors at play" made a deep red district in Texas flip 31 motherfukking points, you ignored it. It's almost like you're just full of chit and talking out your ass.

You also ignored who the fukk is a normal old school Republican? They all have been stomped on like Liz and McCain were, and any of these chameleons, like Graham, that think they can just swing back from this are sorely mistaken.


by Land O Lakes

Yeah, once the Dems are in control, 3 million pages of Trump's name in the files will be unredacted. That could be as soon as the end of this year. I like how when I asked you what "local factors at play" made a deep red district in Texas flip 31 motherfukking points, you ignored it. It's almost like you're just full of chit and talking out your ass. You also ignored who the fu

No I mentioned that Fox News Sunday said there were some other issues relating to a school board decision and the weather had an impact . I also said it was a major upset
They never detailed what the school board issue was


by whatthejish

1. That’s another unwarranted “what about” and I thought you were working on that.2. Your “what about” doesn’t change anything about my statement. People always want to point out what Dems should be fixing, but Repubs get a pass because no one even expects them to act anything other than evil.Sure, both sides both sides. The two party system is ****ed. But, it’s arguably many m

Yes it's been a while since I used a what about but heck I've seen so many lately by the lefties whether it's Rittenhouse or the crazy old folks with the guns

The Dems do need to adjust and fix as
Trump is evil, Jan 6 and abolish ICE not gonna cut it


by lozen

No I mentioned that Fox News Sunday said there were some other issues relating to a school board decision and the weather had an impact . I also said it was a major upset
They never detailed what the school board issue was

"No, dude, I'm not full of chit. I just heard on Fox that there were other issues for why Trump got curb stomped by 31%, but they never mentioned what those issues were, so of course I parrot what they said because I'm a tardo."

Gotcha.


Even though I'm used to the Trump administration being a clown show, the DOJ's inability to redact the Epstein files competently is a little shocking. Large document productions are never perfect, but they are rarely this sloppy. Ordinarily, you might attribute the problem to rushing but this production has been slow and sloppy, not fast and sloppy.

I'm sure the administration was concerned about leaks, but if the DOJ is incapable of doing better than this, they really should have outsourced the project to a large national law firm.


Part of being incompetent is not knowing how incompetent you are.


Very true


by Rococo

Even though I'm used to the Trump administration being a clown show, the DOJ's inability to redact the Epstein files competently is a little shocking. Large document productions are never perfect, but they are rarely this sloppy. Ordinarily, you might attribute the problem to rushing but this production has been slow and sloppy, not fast and sloppy.I'm sure the administration

When an organization is truly broken, they won’t get things right no matter how much time and money they spend.


Did you guys hear? They found the one file that not only absolves Trump, but proves hes the man who singlehandedly took Epstein down!

Good guy Trump kept this close to his chest until a year long controversy forced him to release this to the public

Donnie da dove!


by Land O Lakes

Such as?

It was a very low turnout special-election. How much that carries over to a general election is not clear.



by 72off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3XsXY5v...

yep, nothing to see here

1000+ victims, [strike]2 perps[/strike] 1 perp. seems legit
no leads, nothing to investigate. case closed
now stop asking about it, ok

huh, now there's at least 6 co-conspirators. the doj previously said there was 0, no leads, nothing to pursue. that's pretty weird... ¯\_(ツ😉_/¯


why do you keep sharing stuff from trailer park jeremy piven?


by Didace

It was a very low turnout special-election. How much that carries over to a general election is not clear.

Sure. Does anyone have any data that indicates a small sample favors the Democrats in a deep red district?


Bhad Bhabie was basically trafficked through the rapper ranks at the age of 16 too


by Land O Lakes

Yeah, that could be as soon as the end of this year.

How?
The congress already told the admin to do it and they haven't.


Watching the hearings it drives me nuts . Its non stop can I answer the question and I want my time back.


by chytry

How?
The congress already told the admin to do it and they haven't.

Telling them to do it and doing nothing to enforce it is meaningless. If Congress flips, they will drop the hammer.

by lozen

Watching the hearings it drives me nuts . Its non stop can I answer the question and I want my time back.

Lemme guess... you don't think Bondi is the problem here, eh?


by Land O Lakes

Telling them to do it and doing nothing to enforce it is meaningless. If Congress flips, they will drop the hammer.

Lemme guess... you don't think Bondi is the problem here, eh?

No she is part of the problem . I saw a bit of it and there were times they just wouldn't let her answer and than times she acted like a juvenile idiot.

As attorney general she comes across as more incompetent than Merrick Garland


by lozen

No she is part of the problem . I saw a bit of it and there were times they just wouldn't let her answer and than times she acted like a juvenile idiot.

As attorney general she comes across as more incompetent than Merrick Garland

Lol. It was 100% her fault. She's there to answer questions, not to ask questions and/or spend time on glazing Trump. They have 5 minutes each. If she starts pivoting or talking about Garland, it's their right to shut her up and get her to address the question asked and not waste the 5 minutes they each have.


by Land O Lakes

Lol. It was 100% her fault. She's there to answer questions, not to ask questions and/or spend time on glazing Trump. They have 5 minutes each. If she starts pivoting or talking about Garland, it's their right to shut her up and get her to address the question asked and not waste the 5 minutes they each have.

No the problem is they get 5 minutes to ask questions that is by far the dumbest procedural thing

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