Is The Epstein Pivot That Big A Deal

I'm genuinely curious how you mapped from the Epstein story to the communists being proven right?

All this **** happened 30 years ago. Epstein died 7 years ago. Most of the information has been available to the entire political apparatus for over a decades. The fact we are relitigating it now over social media is pure moral panic and partisan politics. Like I say, the second Trump is out of power this all disappears.

Now I am not saying the Democrats invented this panic. That distinction belongs mainly to the woke right and foreign agents trying to divide and destroy us (not much difference between woke right and anti-American foreign agents at this point). But Democrats are certainly feeding the fire for what they perceive as their own benefit; with the assumption they can put out the fire when Trumpism is 10 feet under.

Both the right and left are two sides of the same corrupt coin, bought and sold by the ultra-wealthy. The people truly in power want us divided and distracted. They use any label they can to show us how different we are (race, socio-economic status, religion, sexuality, party affiliation, etc).

They want us demonizing one another, pointing fingers at each other and blaming "the other side" for all our ills. The last thing they want is "we the people" united, working together. Because then we'd have the time and energy to pay attention to them, to hold them accountable for their corruption and manipulation.

The political party system is just another tool of division used against us. At the end of the day, most of us want the same things (peace, prosperity, a future for our children, etc), we just have different viewpoints on how to achieve those goals.

Oh good, almost forgot whose turn it was this week to repeat this.

Both sides, folks.

You don't know that all of it happened 30 years ago. Is it your contention that nobody else apart from Epstein and Maxwell were guilty? Andrew really was just at pizza hut? I'm not saying it won't disappear, I'm just wondering if you think the two guilty parties were the only guilty ones.

Trumpism isn't going anywhere.

You don't lower the bar all the way to the floor for one of the biggest movements in American politics and than it magically raises itself just because one person retires or dies. It has been ten years, the power structure of the GOP is pure MAGA, and an entire generation of up and coming American conservative politicians are breastfed on this crap. Neither group will know anything else.

It might get re-branded, that is about it.

In my opinion, variations of MAGA will be the dominant force within the GOP until they start losing elections.

If the GOP loses Congress this year and loses the WH in 2028, the GOP will regroup. After the Carter lost in a landslide in 1980 and two liberal Dems lost bigly in 1984 and 1988, the DLC became the dominant force in the party and nominated Clinton in 1992.

Something similar will probably happen in the GOP.

Full disclosure: My predictions are almost invariably completely wrong.

I dont think youre giving enough weight to the fact that Epstein is a money maker. The story may go away when Trump leaves but a big part of it is because a new president will create other opportunities and the viewers will lose interest.

A lot of the media comes from a collection of small scale youtube influencers who are mostly doing this for the money. The MSM still needs to meet quotas and pay their people.

About the only two podcasts I watch are The Young Turks and Piers Morgan Uncensored.

TYT are extremely progressive, yet they certainly give off a 'both sides' vibe. (Of course, they think the GOP is worse, but only in degree, not in kind.)

Political reality can change things quickly. However, Trumpism is not based on what you do, it is based on what you say you do. An entire generation of new politicians and an installed political leadership with that as their political mantra isn't going anywhere fast. It just too convenient and has not exactly fostered a political generation with an aptitude for governing and responsibility.

Nor is there any signs of a desire for internal reckoning. Rather the opposite, the old guard and those with qualms are leaving the boat.

My prediction is that they will gravitate towards what they know, and that is to seek out a new political guiding star that can fill Trump's role.

Please stop making sense. Thanking you in advance.

That's what tends to happen, especially in intellectually hollow identity based movements like modern conservatism . George W Bush went from breaking 50% in the popular vote and having a stable of potential carriers of the Reagan.Bush torch (Condi Rice, Jeb, George P, Liz Cheney) to not even voting for the republican nominee in 12 years. I think it's going to be very hard for republicans in 2008 and beyond to win without treating Trump like current republicans treat W.

Meh. I think you underestimate how big a deal Trump's cult of personality is. And how big a vacuum there will be when he is gone. Most of the people he has surrounded himself with are incompetent flunkies that no one will follow when he is gone.

I cant think of a single "MAGA" politician who is poised to take over the party and keep MAGA rolling. Vance has no charisma and has made a lot of internal enemies by courting Tucker and the woke right. Rubio is not MAGA, and everything would change if him or someone like him took control of the party.

Whatever comes after Trump is going to be VERY different IMO.

TYT are just antisemitic third wordlists. All they do is **** on the US and support the worst authoritarian dictatorships in the world. At this point there is little that differentiates Cenk from Tucker.

Their idea of "America First" would be to join BRICS.

Based on your characterization of TYT, I'd be surprised if you've actually watched many of their podcasts. They are certainly anti-IDF, but I've never felt they crossed the line into antisemitism. But maybe you've watched them a lot more than me.

Turns out my wife used to know someone who is mentioned in the Epstein files 100+ times.

That's probably true.

The question may be will the Democrats rebrand themselves as its not working well for them now

Really? Trump won Texas Senate district 9 by 17%. They just had an election last week for a Senate seat in that district and the Dem won by 14%. That's a 31% flip for a district that hasn't went blue for anyone since 1996, lmao.

As in Trump's first term, all the Dems have to do to regain power is sit back and let Trump do his thing. Of course they have to be active since Trump is trying his best to steal the election again and learned from his mistakes the first time - instead of attacking Congress, he's attacking the voters. We'll see how it plays out, Cotton.

Yes it was a upset but there were other local factors at play . I think the Dems win big in the midterms and may even take the senate but in 2028 Trump will be gone and in a sane republican will be running . Look to Canada were the country was sick of woke Justin Trudeau and all his horrible policies. The conservatives were up by over 25% in the polls but the liberals elected a new leader that promised to scrap the policies that Trudeau put in and the conservatives were running on . They ended up winning by reinventing themselves. I suspect the GOP will as well as they know otherwise they will lose.

I am curious if the Epstein Files come into play in 2028 . Imagine if the dems promised to release it all unredacted?

Such as?

Such as?

The entire GOP buried their heads deep into Trump's ass; all of them have orange chit on their faces - it's why kooks like MTG had to sever from MAGA in order to salvage their political careers. She knows it is over and needs to cleanse herself over the next couple of years to have any chance of a future.

The remaining 3 million documents will be released well before 2028.

Love how it’s always, “What will the Dems do to fix this,” instead of, “Why won’t the Republicans stop being evil.”

Redacted though of things that should not be redacted

Yes everything you think is evil Obama did as well and heck lets traffic 10,000's of children as Biden did no worries and yes trump is evil

American political debate is defined by what Freud called 'the narcissism of small differences'.