PAHWM: How to get paid with the nizzles

It's Sydney, so no jackpots sorry. Best we can do is the highest rake in the free world and an occasional free cup of the worst coffee in Australia.

I have twice lost in this room with quads. No BBJ [emoji3525]

I distinctly remember a conversation on here from years ago when someone posted a PLO hand where the hand was marginal at every point but he'd called preflop/flop/turn/river and the OP asked what he should do differently, and one of the better posters just replied "fold somewhere".

In honour of that post:

Dear OP, bet somewhere.

hand is a complete disaster, nice job minimizing winnings. as played id bet small to get 6x to call.

also stop counting on LAGs to bet for you. almost no lags are dumb enough to keep stabbing into a crowd.

if i checked river and button didnt bet id probably be so embarrassed id just leave the table.

How to get paid with the nizzles
2/5-10 (1000).

a fantastic table at which Hero has been epicly card dead. 1 reg, no pro players, some very bad recs and a lot of money has been moving.

mistakes were made in this hand.

utg (1500) is an ok rec. He's just moved back to my town after a decade away. I recognise him from 10 years ago and he's been snug enough to this point. Straightforward pre flop....limps when he wants to see a flop with speculative hands, opens/raises when strong. Seems to know what he's doing and has bet/folded a couple of times

HJ (2000) also seems ok He's run incredibly well in the 2 hours I've played with him, going form 800 to 2k and has hit flops and rivers very hard and taken big pots off Button. Looks reggy - is young Asian guy, bet sizing looks decent, he handles his chips well but he's benefitted from a few very loose flop and turn calls and there's a chance he might be a fish

CO Hero (950) middle aged reg. Have been folding all night, trying not to get tilted as I muck J2 and 93o while watching huge pots being won by terrible play.

Button (1300). Has been transported from the good old days of 2005. Overvalues top pair and makes nonsensical bluffs. Hasn't seen a board he won't stab at and he loves bluffing when draws come in. In for maybe 3 k. Wants to see flops and will see 70+% of pots in single raised hands

BB (700) friends with straddle. Seems somewhat aware but just there for action. Is in for at least 2k. Wants to see flops, and is happy to call 30, 35 or 40 with a broad range. Gives himself the chance to get lucky post flop - chases draws, gutshots etc.

Straddle 1200. Very similar player to BB. also in for 2k at least

The hand...2/5-10. I think pre flop is standard so I'll summarise that but let me know thoughts on bet sizing if needed

utg limps 10,
cut off calls,
Hero looks down at 88 and raises to 55.
Button calls
BB calls
Straddle calls
UTG calls
HJ calls

Flop ($332) is 866. Yahtzee!

checks to hero in cut off

Hero checks,
Button bets $55
BB folds
Straddle calls
UTG calls
HJ calls
Hero calls

Turn (607) is 10d. Board is now 8c 6d 6s 10d

Checks to Hero.
Hero checks
Button checks

River (607) is 8d. Board is now 8c 6d 6s 10d 8d

Checks to Hero.....who bets $160, folds to UTG who spends about a minute hemming and hawing and eventually calls. HJ folds.

Before I can show my cards, UTG fast rolls K2dd and says "Weird hand but i think I'm good. There's no way you have an 8 and I don't think you'd be betting a 6". Hero shows his hand and says "three pair"

So...really messy hand and not well played by me. Hence the thread

I think the biggest mistake by far is not c betting flop. I guess I was just fearful of getting 5 folds and not giving my opponents the chance to catch up a little. But I need to give my opponents the opportunity to call or get crazy with worse hands and to keep building the pot to allow for stacks to get in.

I actually think Button's sizing would have been about perfect for my c bet. The guys at this table just weren't going to read too much into it...if anything it looks weak and stabby....and as we saw, they all called.

Check calling just made me lose control of the hand and the betting. I think not check raising flop is excusable given how strong it looks. But C betting and then betting small on the turn would have got multiple callers on the turn and would have allowed a straight or a 6 to get more aggressive.

Mistake 2 was checking turn and hoping Button keeps betting. Of course, he would have done if he'd had a 6, but I can still lead small here for him to raise if he's holding a 6 and to ensure we charge draws and other weird holdings that want to see river

River bet is fine I think.

in this particular hand, with no 6s and no straights or overpairs (button said he had 77), I'm not sure I'm getting stacks, but we play for the long run and my post flop play definitely left money on the table

thanks for contributing. Any thoughts on the above?

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?