[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

I'm specifically stating that I think that he is being disingenuous and dishonest. I'm just saying it in a nice way.

My point is that his posts could stretch a mile long at this point and this is where we're at. I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt to express his miscommunications with me with another wall of text. I'd prefer that after 15 years, he finds another gear and hits the gas so we can start actually arguing about the things that actually drives him up the wall instead of more of this.

Why can't you disagree with me without saying all that obviously untrue crap about me? Scumbag is a matter of opinion but lying? disingenuous? I've put in the words, as you well know and about which you complain. I'm not Gamblor, copying and pasting stuff I or my Zionist employers want spread. I've written a damn book in my own words in this bitch.

It has to be about me because you can't discuss the issue. Why can't you discuss the issue? Because you know I'm right. Deep down, you know, a certain strain going against the grain is never wrong. It's just like the virologists saying Corona came from a lab. It's too far out there for those people to go unless they knew they were on solid ground.

Few people really want to confront elites. They are afraid, and for good reason. This is why fascism is trending so hard right now. So is socialism, but fascism more so. That's what the 2016 election was about, the attempt to deal with the elites and what they are doing to us in a safe way. People are scapegoating immigrants because they don't want to confront power. Mass shooters go into grocery stores or churches to attack black people who they want to blame for social problems. It never occurs to them that black people have effectively no political power.

And it never occurs to you that no people hiding in caves planned and executed this. They couldn't even make credible visa applications. There was no evidence of the planning in their residences. There was no evidence of planning in Bin Laden's compound or his hard drives. There is no evidence against KSM. They are letting him live because they have no evidence. Do you know something those who handling the prosecution of KSM don't? You act like you do, but you don't.

Stop blaming people who don't have power for things only powerful people can do.

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TLDR but I read the first paragraph and you definitely are a disingenuous little scumbag. All you do around here is repeat yourself pretending like the horseshit you trot out hasn't been refuted a million times. I have no idea why you do it, since everyone in your audience knows it has and knows that's what you're doing, but I suspect it's the result of some sort of mental defect.

Lemme guess, the rest is mostly about the joos being the bad guys, amirite?

That's right. Israel pays people to go on the internet and post pro Israeli propaganda. I don't know that Gamblor was such an employee, but half the stuff he posted were cut and paste jobs and his tenacity was 2nd to none.

Would you like to learn more about Hasbara? jk I know you don't. Everyone is only interested in how the feel at a given moment and the truth can hurt baby.

Virtually nothing has been refuted.

It's about your psychology and why you can't engage on the issue itself. You parallel the fascists who blame immigrants for economic conditions. Like them, you don't want to confront elites because it's scary.

Man it’s not this hard. You have been jerking off in here since the beginning. Do you have a clear concise explanation for who and why someone flew planes into the Twin Towers or not?

No one needs what you’re calling a concise explanation of something to suspect that the official government explanation isn’t the full picture.

Is this supposed to be another example of you not lying through your teeth?

You were more fun back when you kept your antisemitism hidden.

haha he wrote a book no wonder his ego can't let this go even after decades

Further proof fish rarely swim alone.

His brain seems to break whenever it's trying to process an explanation of why he's dead wrong on some point or another. It's quite uncanny.

Hey Deuces, have you ever made any claims about 9/11 that subsequently turned out to be wrong? Before you answer, I'd urge you to remember that everyone in this thread except possibly you knows the correct answer.

I just really needed to laugh today. Thank you everyone for your great work ♥

I was banned on false antisemitism accusations. Gamblor et al. would just badger Wookie nonstop to ban me, coercing everything I said into antisemitism, just like you are now.

Everything I said about Israel has been proven correct. Most of that was just me synthesizing the critiques of Israel by Jewish scholars. I think everyone can tell I'm on the socialist/commie side of the spectrum and there isn't a spec of demographic based hatred in me or anyone like me. I'm ideologically pure. You are compromised. You vote for Democrats while being like "yeah it sucks to mass murder children and innocent people but the Republicans are worse ehhh I don't know ehhh". My ideology includes anti-racism and anti-imperialism and most of my intellectual heroes are Jews. Sorry, Trolly. Keep trying though. I think pure persistence is your only option since you can't make any compelling arguments.

It's a lot easier to join the ranks of the uncompromised than live your whole life resenting them. Not just easier, it just feels better. Then again, that's just me. I suppose to a sheep the warmth of the herd is what matters above all.

I don't think so. If there were I would have admitted it at the time. People who consider themselves well grounded in research. synthesis, and argumentation are pretty careful speaking on certain issues when they know everyone is just waiting to try and bring down the conspiracy-nut cudgel on them. So the sources I cite or borrow from are extremely careful, as am I.

Maybe not now, but back in the day if I misspelled one word people would react like Ahnold in Predator, "If it bleeds, we can kill it". I'm not saying it's impossible to catch me slipping, but it's not easy.

What's happening now, this surveillance police state where our rights are eroded away, was all predicated on the 9/11 lies. So get your laughs in while you can. It's all funny until you are affected.

Pretty sure CN not laughing at the erosion of individual rights. I think she is laughing at someone, not something.

Okay, but honestly, how does killing every anti communist blend in with the supposed stance of being against the erosion of rights? Because that's going to require a rather large police state and the erosion of rights.

I'm interested in how you reached that point because that has little to do with building 7.

Right, so in your conspiracy-addled mind, nothing anyone has said to you in the last 20 years has given you pause to question any of your conclusions. I've witnessed only this thread, so a small slice of that timeline, and know this to be manifestly untrue. Hell, I personally debunked your AQ horseshit with a link to the Wikipedia article on all the evidence connecting AQ to the 9/11 attacks and instead of addressing any of it, you just kept taking issue with a book cited in one of the footnotes. 1 out of 160+ total footnotes. Lol you.

This is your brain on conspiracies, my dude.

I don't really have a conspiracy theory as much as a critique of the government's conspiracy theory. I guess you could call my critique a conspiracy theory itself, but it's actually just well grounded institutional analysis. 9/11 has always been about the people's rights and the people's money and the institutions seeking to capture those.

I bought the book you cited and I'm trying to get through it. It's a tough read because it keeps dancing around the issue and going down all these weird inspections into personalities.

Another text on that subject, the 9/11 commission report, actually says, explicitly, that the funding of the attacks doesn't matter. You stand by that? There is so much circular logic in there as well, saying, among other nonsense, that the institution through which most of the put options on the airlines were traced wasn't culpable because it wasn't associated with AQ. I've cited this multiple times (it doesn't mention that the put options were also seen in multiple countries around the world). This type of illogical assertion is all over the NIST report as well. One problem you have is you never actually read these documents. On the other hand, congratulations - you are a normal person. I'm not going to bash people for taking the government at it's word when, at least 98% of the time, that is the correct decision. But in this case, and in foreign policy and in anything involving the super-structuring frameworks of the domestic security state, that assumption of honesty is going to get us into heaps of trouble. When it comes to who gets what and when you cannot trust the government because it is corrupt. These politicians are owned. If you can't see that now you probably soon will when it hits you personally. Then again it has probably hit everyone here but frogs gonna boil.