"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

"The Pen:" Live NLHE Chat Thread

It's been about 9.5 years and 350K posts of epicness, but "It Lives, It Lives" can live no more. The OG LLSNL Chat Thre

29 November 2019 at 06:28 PM
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The thought did occur to me — we were still pretty deep SPR-wise on the river. But, like, I don't think I'm good enough to get away from AA on that board, let alone quads. If he has QQ he has it; I've lost more money placing dumber bets. (I'm divorced.)

Bro said his favorite player was Alan Keating. I'm surprised he was as strong as he was.


How did the betting go on each street?


reminded me of this hand. As played, Obst folds the second nuts because I'm not sure Ruane can hold another boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLuhJQdE...


In most rooms, losing with quad 9s to quad Queens gets you a bad beat jackpot.


Yeah I’ve lost with quads twice in my room and got $0

Super annoying not to get a bbj


I think it's probably some rooms, not most.


my new job in a nutshell


in all seriousness, after a 14 year hiatus, i'm just blown away by much ai dominates the tech industry now - tasks which used to take me days back in 2012 can now be done minutes - i totally get the reason for all the layoffs

domain expertise no longer required - it's all about management, vision, and attention to detail


My law firm is piloting an AI agent from one of the major legal research companies. It's surprisingly good - I can feed documents and ask it to draft a legal notice or a complaint based on the source documents and the work it spits out is like 70% of the way finished. Basically a mid-level paralegal quality.

Too early to say for sure but this could change everything.


jack - treat it like an incredibly fast assistant that is an idiot

it may take 12 different prompts to get the desired outcome but it'll still be 10x faster than if a human did it, even if the human correctly understood the assignment at first glance


by feel wrath

How did the betting go on each street?

Some of it's a haze because as soon as I turned quads, I was mostly maintaining my focus on keeping my erection from lifting the table.

I do remember I was BB, fullish table. UTG made it $10 first to act and was instantly called by the guy on his left and a couple others. I decided on playing it safe from the BB and not squeezing (99) because I didn't want to play a 4-bet pot OOP if UTG was strong or if the guy on his left LRR'd.

Flop (9AQ) I check-called a fairly standard c-bet from UTG after the guy on his left did too. Three ways to the turn (9) and I checkraised UTG's bet with the third guy trapped in the middle. I'm forgetting the numbers now but I remember it was pretty hefty, because I figured they were too strong to fold. They both called. River (Q) I led to try to get hero-called by a Q and UTG raised. Third guy thought for a second and folded. I went all-in and UTG snap-called.

I underestimated how much he had; I thought I was covering him by plenty with the $1100+ I still had in front of me, but he still had a couple hundred after that hand. If I had known we were THAT deep, I probably would have picked a smaller number to 3-bet to and he might have just snap-called that instead of 4-betting all-in.


How worried should “BigSkip” be about AI?


by JackInDaCrak

My law firm is piloting an AI agent from one of the major legal research companies. It's surprisingly good - I can feed documents and ask it to draft a legal notice or a complaint based on the source documents and the work it spits out is like 70% of the way finished. Basically a mid-level paralegal quality.

Too early to say for sure but this could change everything.

AI is to modern knowledge work what Excel was to finance. It removes friction so your intelligence actually compounds.

Learning AI now is like learning Excel on nights and weekends before it became mandatory.
Every hour invested then paid dividends for decades!


by RoadtoPro

AI is to modern knowledge work what Excel was to finance. It removes friction so your intelligence actually compounds.Learning AI now is like learning Excel on nights and weekends before it became mandatory.Every hour invested then paid dividends for decades!Experience still matters, but the baseline has shifted.One doesn’t have to like AI, but opting out is no longer a neutral

What if you're a farmer?


Learning Excel was mandatory?


by JackInDaCrak

My law firm is piloting an AI agent from one of the major legal research companies. It's surprisingly good - I can feed documents and ask it to draft a legal notice or a complaint based on the source documents and the work it spits out is like 70% of the way finished. Basically a mid-level paralegal quality.

Too early to say for sure but this could change everything.

by rickroll

jack - treat it like an incredibly fast assistant that is an idiot

it may take 12 different prompts to get the desired outcome but it'll still be 10x faster than if a human did it, even if the human correctly understood the assignment at first glance

I've conceded that the AI bots can write better than me. But so far everything it has produced has a flaw.


by DeadMoneyWalking

I've conceded that the AI bots can write better than me. But so far everything it has produced has a flaw.

Yes a complaint it drafted had a cause of action for negligent misrepresentation that is not viable in my state in the context of real estate transactions (which I knew from practice but also as confirmed by the AI on inquiry). No big deal to delete though - ample review is still required.

The allegations in the complaint were also comprehensive and somewhat duplicative like:

1. Defendant misrepresented the facts.

2. Defendant misrepresented the facts by failing to disclose x.

Not legally flawed but stylistically clunky.


by All-inMcLovin

What if you're a farmer?

Any farmer who does any of the following already has an AI use case:
•Files taxes or manages depreciation
→ AI explains deductions, equipment write-offs, and cash-flow timing in plain English
•Watches weather or plans harvest windows
→ AI summarizes multiple forecasts and risk scenarios in seconds
•Buys seed, fertilizer, fuel, or equipment
→ AI compares pricing, financing terms, and historical cost trends
•Sells crops or livestock
→ AI explains futures prices, basis, and hedging options clearly
•Deals with regulations or insurance
→ AI translates USDA, EPA, crop insurance, and lender documents into usable decisions
•Fixes equipment
→ AI walks through diagnostics using manuals, schematics, and symptom descriptions

If your job involves decisions, paperwork, weather risk, pricing, or problem-solving — you already have an AI use case. Farming has all five.


I’m genuinely passionate about this.
AI tools now do about 90% of my actual work, and I spend hours a day using them in practical, non-theoretical ways.

If anyone’s curious or wants help figuring out where it could be useful for them, I’m happy to help.


by RoadtoPro

Any farmer who does any of the following already has an AI use case:•Files taxes or manages depreciation→ AI explains deductions, equipment write-offs, and cash-flow timing in plain English•Watches weather or plans harvest windows→ AI summarizes multiple forecasts and risk scenarios in seconds•Buys seed, fertilizer, fuel, or equipment→ AI com

Well I don’t have to ask “What if you’re a 2plus2 poster?”. 😉



rtp - what free and paid ais do you use?

we use cursor at work, it's incredible, a team of about a dozen use it daily and monthly cost is only like 2k for entire company but we can do the work of like 100 people so the roi is insane


by feel wrath

Yeah I’ve lost with quads twice in my room and got $0

Super annoying not to get a *bj*

Probably also would have helped a bit


by DeadMoneyWalking

I've conceded that the AI bots can write better than me. But so far everything it has produced has a flaw.

yes, that's why you need to carefully go over all the work and iterate and it may take a dozen iterations to get there but you'll still get it done much faster


IME AI bots aren't nearly as good at writing yet. I've been surprised and disappointed with the results every time I've spent time briefing an AI to eg write an article

great research tools, great for thought starters and grinding through and synthesising huge amounts of info and data. But not good enough yet in terms of adding insight or the right types of context to take things forward


by feel wrath

IME AI bots aren't nearly as good at writing yet. I've been surprised and disappointed with the results every time I've spent time briefing an AI to eg write an articlegreat research tools, great for thought starters and grinding through and synthesising huge amounts of info and data. But not good enough yet in terms of adding insight or the right types of context to take thi

i've found when i have word salad thoughts at work that i wish to convey to a colleague that i can just freely type it out and it'll condense it into a coherent and digestible set of sentences

i found it works best if you give it context of who/what/where/why

ie you're going to get far better responses with that - just look at how different these are




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