[extracted] New(?) 9-11 stuff

Oh, no. I have a point. My point is to make fun of you. Like I said, you've had decades to figure out that these people you reference are grifters and/or dumb as a box of rocks. I'm not going to read and respond to your arguments, dude. Forget it. And again, if you want to know my responses to these df ideas of yours, my posts from 10-15 years ago or whatever are still there. Nothing has changed. Go read them.

Or don't. Couldn't give a f

I don't know if it's funny or sad that people don't see the connection between the 9/11 coverup and the fact that fascists in powerful positions are amassing an army of reactionary thugs to terrorize and American citizens. It's not AQ saying Americans can't have health care in the richest country in the world. It's not AQ recruiting brown shirts and paying them 50k of our money to intimidate us and shoot us in the face. People who live in caves...I'm not saying they are good people necessarily but they just don't seem so greedy as the ones putting us under their boot now. Plus, even if you believe the same people openly trying to enslave you now and think AQ did it, prior to that they were only killing Americans in places where Americans didn't need to be, if we are to be honest. Are the 9/11 attacks really consistent with their philosophy or their modus operandi? As I've said before, these attacks are totally unlike anything they have ever done before or after, on a total different scale and skillset. It's like home invaders somehow stealing the crown jewels - it can't happen.

Did you know that 14 of the alleged hijackers came in through the same consulate? all with applications which were beyond shady? that the official who initially denied their visas was fired for making a stink about it? Just another whistle blower you ignore. He wrote a book. Ya don't care because you really don't care about this country. You've become individualistic money maximizers. The perspective you think gets you the most is going along with the state propaganda. But there is a price for that, a price for looking the other way as the toll of the victims of your masters climbs: at some point, you will be next.

Suppose you lay it out clearly for us.

As others have noted, everything you dismiss as being implausible is 1000x more plausible than a grand conspiracy where 20 years later not a single piece of direct evidence has been uncovered and not a single conspirator has broken ranks and blown cover.

I don’t even care about the conspiracy theory. Somehow pretty much every physicist and sctructural engineer knows planes did not cause the towers to collapse and yet the reasons for that cannot be explained. That’s probably as ludicrous as any part of this discussion.

I went over this. There is zero institutional demand for evidence debunking the official story.

Say you were in on it. You feel bad about it and you want to divulge what you know. You would have had to have saved evidence that was worth something. Then you would have to convince some politician to start advocating for your cause. What do you think the Trolley's of the world are going to do when their congressman threatens their psyche with disassociation by suggesting there is truth the claim that we were attacked by our own elites (the same ones who are trying to deny everyone healthcare and housing but who cares I'm good rite?) who are, would have to assume, something like parental figures to someone like Trolley.

People have been trying to pull at the strings pursuing open source documents but if you go anywhere sensitive, even something which should be totally benign under the assumption that AQ executed the attacks as described like the maintenance records of the TTs in the months leading up to the attacks, the request is denied with no explanation given.

FFS in the 9/11 commission report they said the money trail didn't matter. I 've quoted that like 5 times. I've never seen any defense of that here. The government is alleging an international criminal conspiracy in which cells of terrorists were sponsored on U.S. soil and your government then tells you it doesn't matter who financed it. I don't know how you sheeple process that information.

OK, so this supposed whistleblower isn't going to divulge the truth about 9/11 because some random goofus on the internet might get their mind blown?

Deuces, collect your thoughts and start over. Pretend I'm not living inside your head, constantly yelling and banging the walls in there.

If there were inside people who wanted to tell the world what actually happened wouldn't they all be on Twitter stating as such? Wait, are there people like that on Twitter? I spend so little time there now since Musk has ruined it.

Historically, there are plenty of examples of people like Reality Winner and Daniel Ellsberg who are willing to risk jail time to revel government skullduggery. 9/11 is different, though, the Lizard People have kept all the thousands of people involved absolutely silent about their plot to murder 3, 000 Americans.

Deuces McKracken believes there is a cabal of jews in American government and politics that is plotting with Israel to orchestrate a nuclear attack on the US and start World War III. This he has written in posts on this very forum.

He also has people he occasionally goes ballistic on in posts, usually jews or people he thinks colludes with them, which he sees as being behind dramatic news event and international conflicts. So not only does he see a pattern in the world that affirms his conspiracy theory, he also clearly has a list of the people behind it.

Now, there are people in politics which let their politics dictate the conspiracy theories they believe in. MAGA residents on this forum which believes the 2020 election was stolen because they can't fathom a reality where Trump lost is an example of that.

Deuces McKracken is the other ilk, a person who lets their conspiracy theories dictate their politics. It isn't ideology based on principle as much as it is ideology meant to convince listeners that the conspiracy theories are real. That is why it is always light on facts and heavy on verbose musing, because it is window dressing.

All in all, it isn't very hard to figure out who he thinks is behind the 9/11 attacks.

I doubt he posts extremist forums or places, because he is clever enough to know it would reflect poorly on him and he is likely uncomfortable with the more heavy-handed stuff you could find there. However, the way he writes his musings is fairly typical of the intellectual drivers of such places: Superficially convincing, with the grim stuff buried in walls of otherwise pleasant sounding text.

lol

Deuces, what are your thoughts on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? Those crafty joos, huh?

looks like Deuces/Victor disagrees.

What exactly is your thinking process behind this hypothesis? That Deuces affects being borderline illiterate when he posts on the Victor account?

yes, Alcoboy, the thought of a multi accounting, trolling/ragebaiting nutcase is totally absurd and far fetched. Never happened in the history of the web before. Not once. Uh huh. Sure sure.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Read it again when you're sober. I'm out for a while.

I'm sober, donkey. Read it again when you're smarter.

Gonna be a long wait.

BobSlob has several times accused some Catholic gentleman who posts in RGT as being my alt. (Even though our posting styles are in no way similar and my alleged alt has important theological differences from me as well.)

I suspect you are saying "lol" because you do not believe he has posted that such a cabal with such a plan exists?

I didn't want to quote his post, because of how the internet works these days volume is sadly an affirming quantity of its own, but here it is:

Now and then it pays to properly read and understand what the people you listen to are saying.

no I was loling about the you using the term "Jew" to elide over the fact that he obv meant Israel. its funny how the pro-genocide, pro-ethno-Supremacist side always uses Jew instead of Israel. and if the anti-genocide crowd would do that then they would get banned for anti-semitism.

and I mean, there is nothing that I would put past Israel or the USA. but I do disagree with his idea that Israel and the USA are at all separate.

Nah, that one does not fly here. Not with his posting history, the people he goes ballistic on and a history of pretty much textbook Zionist conspiracy theories and how sees these patterns re-occuring in arbitrary events

For what it is worth in this context, I have never believed that you are an anti-Semite. I find your opinions extreme, but I know they are rooted elsewhere. If I thought you were, then I obviously would not bother responding to the issue of his post(s).

Anyway, I will be moving on, as I have no interest in posting more in this trainwreck of a thread or providing traffic to his writings.