4bet pot are we supposed to cbet?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everybody.
2/2 live 4 handed
A different room than usual, very small compared to the 5 bring in. 700 max buyin.
But it's time rake only 5 half an hour, super cheap. Dunno how to adjust ranges to cheap rake.
V1 ~ fishy passive but spazzed and bluffed v3 out of a pot with 0 sidepot on river with busted draws.
V2 ~ uber maniac, every hand 3bet/4bet/5bet, betting flops frequently.
A few hands ago, hero limp/3b vs v2, flop aa6r we cbet 1/3, V2 tank fold.
She has lost at least 2~3 buyins when I was there.
V3 ~ uber deepstacks like 5000+, haven't seen him play anything crazy. Only a bit loose preflop, postflop ranges are tight. Doesn't go crazy with combo draws on flop.
Hero might have timid image. We have been limp/calling and missing. V2 going crazy in the game, so we were just trying to flop nuts, but no luck.
Effective 550
Preflop
V2 asked hero to straddle, we straddle to 4.
V3 in btn opens to 10(he likes to open small with very wide range)
V2 im sb 3bets to 25(she does this like maybe 40~60% of the time, has toned down on the 3bets)
V3 in bb coldcalls.
Hero 4bets to 100 w/K♣K♠9♣Q♥
V1 calls
V2 calls
4way pot 400
Flop A♣T♥2♠
V2+V3 check
Hero?? We have 450 left.
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Check and hope we get a free card. Will be hard to make an ace fold at this spr.
You got two V3 & no V1 in preflop action but regardless its a snapcheck.
Easy check against 3 players
Spoiler
In game, I was tired ready to go home. I decided to cbet small then give up if anyone calls. Was thinking getting good odds as a bluff if it works.
We cbet to 150(probably a mistake if we do cbet, maybe 100-125 works alot better and way cheaper)
Only v3 in btn calls.
Turn 8♣
My head wasn't thinking clearly. I just blindlessly jammed after seeing the flush draw. In retrospect, I think we have 0 fold equity once he called the flop.
V3 snapped with ATxx. He asked if we had AA, I said no.
We ran it twice and missed both.
After hand, V2 is like I knew you were playing with KKxx with a flush draw. I didn't know it was that obvious. lol
Yeah and I knew you had KKQ9 after you posted it.
It was also pretty obvious to me what hand you had after you told us. I have a read
Check flop. You can do that with AAQJ etc sometimes too
As everyone pointed out, it is a check. However, I don't like the 4bet in a live game like this with KKQ9 single suit. Not getting a lot of folds with V2 in the hand. If we are not closing the action, I would tighten up my 4bet range a little bit or at least have an A in our hand. If our plan is to wait for the nuts, why are we bloating the pot with KKQ9 ss when we likely can't isolate and we have a competent player behind us?
