river spot with KQdd as OOP Sqzr

I wouldn't 1/4 pot cbet. I know small cbets are popular and solvers sometimes like them. This is a great flop for TT-AA. I would go atleast half pot, representing an overpair.

The K seems like a good barrel card if you had missed the flop and turn. I would bet. As played, I don't mind a call.

River is a bad card for you hand. He might be hesitant to bluff as the board hits your 3! range. However, I couldn't fold, as your postflop line looks weak, and you only need to be good like 27% of the time.

I bet bigger on the flop, and I bet the turn. However, checking to x/r was a good idea. As played, fold is good/fine. That river is terrible.

i tend to bet 1/4 to 1/3 cb in multiway regardless of actual hand strength. 1/4 when we are super deep and 1/3 when we are shallower.

what would be the arguments for betting say 1/2 to 2/3 on this board? OOP and multiway?

Personally, I think it let's people float too wide for cheap (and often more than one) and it makes the pot smaller when I want value. I'm sure it's a fine strategy for some, but I just don't use it -- at least not very often.

Is that what solvers recommend, to cbet small multiway OOP. It looks like a good flop for an overpair, so I would bet larger to put pressure on and represent I was trying to get stacks in. Maybe that is an old school approach and 1/4 pot is better. I guess you can do 1/4 pot and fire bigger on the turn.

The turn is the nut barrel card, so I would bet it. Think he checks back the turn a lot.

I agree either check turn or follow through on the x/r.

probably, i havent looked at monker in awhile. im just starting to play again, took some years off to start a business.

i think its probably bc if i see a villain bet large on this texture i know hes going to have more bluffs than overpairs so i peel light here. knowing there is a good chance i can take it away on a future street. ( obv turn K isnt it lol i just mean in general) where as vs a 1/4 psb i would think its a more polar range where hes going to be strong/no equity type hands vs the larger bet i expect him to be very linear.

i should of followed through on the x/r. i think it was the right play but talked myself out of it because there are so little cards i have to fold to on river and thought i would allow him to bluff river too, he seems like the "you check? Bet." kind of guy

I really hate turn checks….

You tell a story of strength with a weak hand and then you act like the flop doesn’t bother you. I’m fine with your play so far, though I agree a little bigger on the flop would be good.

But the turn check destroys the entire narrative. Maybe if you turn check the nuts once in awhile - nobody does.

But now you have no idea what to do. You gave villain the lead, don’t know where you’re at, and lose the pot. Like villain, I’m firing with anything because it appears you have given up.

The entire reason I float the flop with air is the turn check. Ed Miller says if you called the last bet, you should probably call the next and it’s exactly for this type of opportunity.

At low stakes you keep betting until you meet resistance. If you’re not willing to do that fold KQ preflop. No shame, it’s a weak hand OOP.

Then call the river getting 3-1.

this was the only card i was 100% folding on. all his Ax wheel hands that he might stab turn with get there as well as his Ax fds that float the small cb.

idk what this means. the part about flop not bothering me? im not following the line here.

i absolutely do check the nuts on the turn occasionally.

i do have an idea, i said i was going to x/r flop but decided against it because i want to let his weak hands bet river. BUT there are some rivers i have to x/f and Ax was the main one, there are only 4 aces in the deck so 1 in 12 ish times.

my question wasnt "what to do on the river", my question was more of a line check, "does x/f Ax, heart and x/c all other rivers makes sense vs x/r turn?"
sometimes i have trouble getting whats in my head into the post, if thats not how it "read" then my apologies.

Ed Millers "Play the Player" is one of the best books ever written i believe. I did fold KQcc later in the session because i was unsure how to proceed as ive been away from the tables for the better part of 4 years minus the occasional game here and there.

Preflop is good.

Flop - I'd be checking this flop a ton. I don't see what a 25% bet does here, our hand doesn't really want to bloat the pot and we're not getting any Ax to fold vs this size. I guess it may set us up to bluff turn, but we have plenty of backdoors so we're perfectly happy to x/c or get a free card. Getting raised here really sucks because we have the backdoor equity. I'd rather lead with hands like K9 no BDFD that I'm happy to fold if raised. I don't think betting is a huge error since most live Vs aren't going to raise this flop anyway.

Turn - The check makes no sense to me at all. A card that's great for our range peeled off and the board just got wet and dynamic. We can get value from a bunch of draws which we priced in all the BDs with our flop sizing and either V could have a weaker Kx holding.

AP it looks like we gave up, so button should be stabbing really wide here and easily picked up a lot of hands with good equity. The problem is that we don't really have a hand that's going to hold up if stacks go in. A x/r here is basically turning our hand into a bluff against hands we currently beat.

River - We under-repped our hand and are getting good odds on a call. Folding here is very disrespectful to V. We let all the FDs in. Q9, J9, 98, 87, 76, 64. BTN overlimped and the flat called closing the action so he probably is quite wide with suited connectors/gappers. And what do you do here if you semi-bluff the turn after picking up a draw? We can't fold.

I think there is an argument that raising might be better than calling. Ax does make up a lot of V's value range - we have $1200 on top of the raise, jamming is probably going to get Ax to fold. Even A5/A2 might consider folding because H has AK, QJ, AT. The hands we're going to get torched with are TT, 55, QJ. We block some QJ, but would V have played a set this way? Maybe. The flop doesn't exactly encourage fast play.

What I'd be thinking about
1: Would V play a set differently (like raise larger OTT, a lot of players will oversize their bets when the FD/SDs come in), and would V have bet turn with QJ without hearts? Would V bet so small with a straight?
2: Would V value bet Ax here? (Which we know is yes based on HH)
3: Is V capable of folding AQ here?

I think a x/r on the river might be the best play. I think we're only getting called by sets and straights, and with these sizings, I don't think V has sets or straights very often.

But if your spidey sense isn't giving the greenlight to bluff here, then I think we have to call anyway. Unless we are just going to say that V isn't good enough to ever bluff or value-bet with worse like KJ.

I agree with a lot of Yami's post. If you're bluffing, the turn K is a great card to barrel so you usually want to keep betting when you have it too.

As played you check-called turn and underrepped your hand. Another scare card hit on the river and that's pretty much a green light for your opponent to bluff. With their sizing you don't have to be right often to call. They're going to have you beat a lot but I think you're going to be good often enough to call, given pot odds.