How many 4's in deck? On ACR I have a screenshot of 5 fours!!!!
Ok, that is not entirely true....there are 5 4's out, but it's OK. It's just ACR protecting us. (LMFAO)
See, ACR has such a problem with cheating and colluding in Omaha games, they figured the best way to deal with this would be to simply take the cards you muck and re-introduce them into the deck to be dealt again!!! Lets see how that works for these players, shall we?
Look at the pic. I folded 2 4's. The hand winner should not have picked up 3 fours from the board and his hand (making a full house), he should have only gotten one pair of fours. This manipulation of the mucked cards saw him win the hand. And the guy with the flush? Too bad, so sad for you!
I leave it to those who think they know best, however, this is no longer legit Omaha poker. You cannot change it like this for obvious reasons, this is one. Who would argue the guy with 4's over k's would have lost to the flush? HOW CAN WE CALCULATE HAND STRENGTH AND HAND ODDS LIKE THIS? YOU CANNOT! It changes everything.
If only there was a device...a type of machine.....something that could analyze every hand played on the site, and using MATH, well, you know! To figure out who is OBVIOUSLY cheating. But whatever device could this be? An abacus? Well, they got 2 monkey's in a back room fighting over an abacus, that's called the ACR RNG... a computer! yes, a device which can make thousands of complex calculations in mere minutes and could find the cheating red flags which ALWAYS exist.
Naw, say they. Lets just turn Omaha in CARD LOTTO. Cannot wait until they do this with Texas Holdem.
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I just came looking because I have used my phone to make a replay video of 5 Queens. I was in an Omaha game with x6Qx and the flop was KQx, with POT and REPOT to my FOLD of 6Qs, and they revealed KKx and QQx, so the turn is my Qs.!!!!!?
When you folded your hand pre, the folded 4's are reshuffled into the deck, there aren't extra 4's in play. ACR and other sites started doing this to prevent collusion as regs were telling each other what cards they had folded. It's good for the game and protects you from cheating
When you folded your hand pre, the folded 4's are reshuffled into the deck, there aren't extra 4's in play. ACR and other sites started doing this to prevent collusion as regs were telling each other what cards they had folded. It's good for the game and protects you from cheating
Actually increase the value of collusion as if we assume players are telling each other their cards it allows two players that are both say 3 pair to have one fold while the other gets 3 new full house cards added to the deck. And what does it say about game honesty that they felt there was enough collusion they wanted to do this?
Imagine making a thread to display you have no idea how any of this works lol
Imagine making a post to denigrate those pointing out collusion. After all they claim the reason they are changing the rules on whether cards are shuffled back into the deck was rampant collusion.
When you folded your hand pre, the folded 4's are reshuffled into the deck, there aren't extra 4's in play. ACR and other sites started doing this to prevent collusion as regs were telling each other what cards they had folded. It's good for the game and protects you from cheating
Yea, that actually makes a lot of sense, it's all random anyways so w/e, but I really think this would turn the average recreational player off. Case in point: this thread by OP.
Yeah, I got the same response from ACR when I asked them about cards mucked getting back into the deck to be reused. But then I've had poor response from them considering a hand where 2 players had the same card. I mucked a hand with a 3 of clubs preflop and later saw the winning hand in the big blind also had a 3 of clubs. I saw this in the 'replay' of the game and sent them a screenshot. Their explanation was the cards are not set when they are 'dealt' and since I folded my hand before the big blind played their hand they could legitimately be dealt the 3 of clubs. Had I chosen to play the hand, the big blind player would have received a different card even if it looked like they already had cards. Yeah....sure.
I do NOT understand why they can not simply deal out the cards from the shuffled deck (PLO 4 has 8 players x 4 cards = 32 with 20 left over for the board). They say they are allowing for more variety and unpredictability for the game play. Anyone else think this is......screwy?
If that's what they are doing then it's not real Omaha. Say you have 4493. The flop 4AA, Hero has the odds another 4 is coming x. If there is another 4, then it's 2x. That's a blow get your brains out back when real men bet their whole farms on a hand. Somebody turn over quad A's and you grin. You turn over five 4's, gonna be a big, big problem.
If they are doing that it has happened to someone. I bet it was the first time they knew about them putting WTF cards in the deck.
