RFK - Make America Healthy? again?
I believe this guy is going to need his own thread.
BJ estimated weight: 265 pounds, unvaccinated.
BJ: "Kids are fat because they're vaccinated."
No claim at all, and maybe I misunderstood your previous post. I notice a certain irony in that some people seem overly concerned, even very paranoid, about vaccines in general, while not showing the same concern over diet, maintaining a healthy weight, exercise, air pollution etc, factors that I believe (although again, open to be proven wrong) deserve a higher weighting when
Yeah common irrationality from dumb conspiracy theorist .
1% chance dying covid means nothing .
Climate change sceptic trusting 1% of studies that deny human responsibility means everything .
I doubt American kids are the unhealthiest in the world.
If we are unreasonably unhealthy it’s because over processed, over sugared, and over salted bundles of trans fats
it's pretty wild, i was somewhat happy about the appointment because i assumed there was enough bureaucratic inertia to stop the crazy but had high hopes he'd do a lot to help stamp out ultraprocessing of foods
none of that has happened - only the crazy
just wild there's so much low hanging fruit that he campaigned on that the public adores that he wholly ignores
if only there was a vaccine lobby as powerful as nabisco
it's pretty wild, i was somewhat happy about the appointment because i assumed there was enough bureaucratic inertia to stop the crazy but had high hopes he'd do a lot to help stamp out ultraprocessing of foodsnone of that has happened - only the crazyjust wild there's so much low hanging fruit that he campaigned on that the public adores that he wholly ignoresif only there was
It has only been one year. Vaccines are the most important thing to him personally, so that is what he is focusing on first. Give it some time to see if he goes after processed foods. I dont know if it is because of RFK per se, but my wife has become a lot more conscious about avoiding processed food at home, and is even cooking with beef tallow. Even if he does nothing major policy wise, just inserting a dialogue of avoiding processed food and sugars is going to do some good IMO.
Regulating processed food sounds very un-American. Doubt he'll get far, especially with Mr Big Mac in office.
It has only been one year. Vaccines are the most important thing to him personally, so that is what he is focusing on first. Give it some time to see if he goes after processed foods. I dont know if it is because of RFK per se, but my wife has become a lot more conscious about avoiding processed food at home, and is even cooking with beef tallow.
ah yes because its RFKjr that started the principle of process food not being great ?
you did not many years ago already ?
I don't think you'll find anyone that disagrees that the US needs to improve in diet/obesity/exercise, etc., even BJ.
I think any meaningful changes in our lifetime will have to happen at the individual level with those who decide that they want to live a life that's prioritized to healthy living. Gen Z is addicted to Starbucks and fast food, their schools lack in PE, kids don't play anymore, sedentary lifestyles are up for obvious reasons, anxiety, and the cheap foods are processed garbage.
Like Dunyan said, either making people more self-conscious somehow, or shifting their addictions towards something that leads to a healthy lifestyle is going to trump anything on the macro level like reducing a venti down to a grande.
I think people need a reason and a drive to change in that regard.
The problem with regulating "processed food" is that processed food includes both unhealthy and healthy foods.
Nor can you just look to the process itself. If you bake a bread, you are heavily processing food and you are even using a fair amount of processed ingredients. However, you can use the process to make healthy bread or you can use it to make unhealthy bread.
To complicate things even more, exactly even if those respective breads would broadly speaking be healthy or unhealthy on average, that does not always apply to the individual. The final judgment it still hinges on things like volume consumed, lifestyle, body composition and dietary restrictions. What is unhealthy to person A is not necessarily unhealthy to person B.
it's pretty wild, i was somewhat happy about the appointment because i assumed there was enough bureaucratic inertia to stop the crazy but had high hopes he'd do a lot to help stamp out ultraprocessing of foodsnone of that has happened - only the crazyjust wild there's so much low hanging fruit that he campaigned on that the public adores that he wholly ignoresif only there was
Are you saying that you that he knew he was a nut bag and wanted to do crazy ****, but hoped the “deep state” was real enough to stop his realllly crazy ****?
The problem with regulating "processed food" is that processed food includes both unhealthy and healthy foods.Nor can you just look to the process itself. If you bake a bread, you are heavily processing food and you are even using a fair amount of processed ingredients. However, you can use the process to make healthy bread or you can use it to make unhealthy bread. To compli
This is the main issue with battling "processed foods," you nailed it. "Processed foods" has no useful definition at all (at least not in regards to determining health). Slicing bread and chopping vegetables is processing food. Neither of those affects their healthiness even a little.
"Ultra-processed food" has been tried, but that just refers to "ingredients not found in a kitchen" so it doesn't have anything to do with "processing" food.
It's important (at least to me) to not get beneficial or mostly harmless processing (cutting, chopping, drying, smoking, curing, pickling, canning, etc. ) mixed in with "UPFs. "
Regulating processed food sounds very un-American. Doubt he'll get far, especially with Mr Big Mac in office.
The problem with regulating "processed food" is that processed food includes both unhealthy and healthy foods.Nor can you just look to the process itself. If you bake a bread, you are heavily processing food and you are even using a fair amount of processed ingredients. However, you can use the process to make healthy bread or you can use it to make unhealthy bread. To compli
I think the way RFK Jr is attempting to regulate processed food is to restrict what people can get from their food stamps. So they won't be able to buy sodas, juices, or processed foods using their food stamps. But it doesn't look like he is going to try to limit companies from producing processed food.
In theory this could help reduce the overall medical expenses for people on Medicaid (and possibly some on Medicare) but in reality if somebody wants to drink a soda they would pay cash for it anyway and use their food stamps for something else. And I doubt grocery stores would remove any processed foods because people couldn't buy them with food stamps...
In terms of overall health and increasing life expectancy there are many things that people could do to improve their diets. This article gives examples of what is p... (and it has nothing to do with what RFK Jr is going to attempt)
It has only been one year. Vaccines are the most important thing to him personally, so that is what he is focusing on first. Give it some time to see if he goes after processed foods. I dont know if it is because of RFK per se, but my wife has become a lot more conscious about avoiding processed food at home, and is even cooking with beef tallow. Even if he does nothing maj
Lmao at beef tallow. That's like saying shooting yourself with a handgun is healthier than using a shotgun.
Are you saying that you that he knew he was a nut bag and wanted to do crazy ****, but hoped the “deep state” was real enough to stop his realllly crazy ****?
no
i was saying at least there's a silver lining to have that nutbag in that role
but keep on projecting nonsense on fairly mainstream centrist positions and view everyone you slightly disagree with as hitler - i can see that's working quite well for everyone
I think the way RFK Jr is attempting to regulate processed food is to restrict what people can get from their food stamps. So they won't be able to buy sodas, juices, or processed foods using their food stamps. But it doesn't look like he is going to try to limit companies from producing processed food. In theory this could help reduce the overall medical expenses for people
it upsets me to no end seeing places like 7/11 proudly display on the window that they accept food stamps
i get the idea behind it - some people don't have access to real grocery stores or kitchens - but that doesn't mean we should allow people to spend their food stamps on coca cola and potato chips
What a bizarre thing to get so upset about.
my wat now
it upsets me to no end seeing places like 7/11 proudly display on the window that they accept food stamps
i get the idea behind it - some people don't have access to real grocery stores or kitchens - but that doesn't mean we should allow people to spend their food stamps on coca cola and potato chips
It would upset me a lot more if somebody used food stamps to buy caviar...
People on food stamps deserve to enjoy food, too.
There was no silver lining.
it upsets me to no end seeing places like 7/11 proudly display on the window that they accept food stamps
i get the idea behind it - some people don't have access to real grocery stores or kitchens - but that doesn't mean we should allow people to spend their food stamps on coca cola and potato chips
Who exactly do you want to decide which foods should be eligible for purchase with food stamps?
I believe food stamps don’t allow one to purchased prepared foods, regardless of how healthy they may be. No storemade salads or chips for the poor!