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I think we are obviously nitpicking over semantics and this conversation is silly but I just thought it was strange that the govt compensating farmers 12 billion dollars after hamstringing them could be seen as an act of socialism.
Words just don't seem to mean what they used to or I'm just not up with lingo.
It's a play on the tendency of conservatives, "conservatives" and the fiscal economic right to see any government expense they don't like or understand as "theft", "socialism", "handout", "waste" or "overreach". It probably isn't very useful, nor is only those political groups that use this tactic.
That said, it is worth stating that bringing your farmers to the brink of collapse, destroying their exports and end up paying them for lost revenue instead of taxing their profits is pretty much the epitome of wasteful government fiscal policy.
I don't know what corporate socialism is.The govt is essentially investing in a company when the bail them out - look into the govt equity stake in GM. It's like investing in forward tax returns - not out of the kindness of their heart. They are literally funding capitalism. And in the case with the farmers, they are paying back from a **** up to allow them to do their thing
Despite the dictionary definition, anything that is contrary to an absolutely free market tends to be labeled as socialism in the United States, especially by detractors but also to a lesser degree by supporters. Socialism has become a catch-all term in the United States for Western European-style government.
What campfirewest means is that the reason that the Trump administration is giving to justify the farm subsidies (which are a form of government manipulation of the free market) is that they are necessary because of the tariffs (another form of government manipulation of the free market).
Well, according to conservatives, Socialism is any time the government gives anyone any money for any reason and its always bad
100%. You can argue “semantics” all day long, but coordi is right. Don’t pretend that conservatives have always been cool with the government assistance.
As always, it takes them personally being affected to finally understand that it can be a good thing.
I know I'm dumb but I consider farming and food production as part of national security. I'm all for subsidizing crops for domestic consumption to stay competitive vs cheaper imports, you don't want your food supply reliant on imports.
Subsidies for soybeans meant to be exported I'm less sympathetic.
Well, according to conservatives, Socialism is any time the government gives anyone any money for any reason and its always bad
An absurd over-generalization on your part in my humble opinion.
That said, certainly a small handful of conservatives might think or say that.
It is important to distinguish between libertarianism and conservatism. It's easy to conflate the two because there is a lot of overlap between them.
Even libertarians* such as Charles Murray have advocated for UBI.
*note well he lower-case 'l'.
I know I'm dumb but I consider farming and food production as part of national security. I'm all for subsidizing crops for domestic consumption to stay competitive vs cheaper imports, you don't want your food supply reliant on imports.
Subsidies for soybeans meant to be exported I'm less sympathetic.
Bolded is a different question.
I wonder why Republican always been against universal healthcare if it was described as capitalist system .
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lets get our facts straight both parties are against Universal Healthcare based on Kamala Harris stance in the 2024 election
Lazy Lozen talking about facts is like a 5 year old saying "We need to address inflation!"
lets get our facts straight both parties are against Universal Healthcare based on Kamala Harris stance in the 2024 election
But only 1 party voted for a person whose words could be mistaken for Hitler’s. That party is the GOP.
“They’re garbage. I don’t want them here.”
Such talk is INEXCUSABLE from the POTUS.
But only 1 party voted for a person whose words could be mistaken for Hitler’s. That party is the GOP.
“They’re garbage. I don’t want them here.”
Such talk is INEXCUSABLE from the POTUS.
WTF does that have to with Universal Healthcare ?
Translation: "Please don't talk about the fact that I pray several times a day to a child raping Nazi!"
But only 1 party voted for a person whose words could be mistaken for Hitler’s. That party is the GOP.
“They’re garbage. I don’t want them here.”
Such talk is INEXCUSABLE from the POTUS.
do you think the Dems want them here? what did the Dems say?
oh right
lets get our facts straight both parties are against Universal Healthcare based on Kamala Harris stance in the 2024 election
Whatabout the time Trump raped underage girls on Epstein's island?
lol, lozen complaining that someone whattabout’d him without an ounce of self reflection is pretty par for the course.
the Dems are just mad they arent in charge of deportations anymore. remember how Biden and Obama ripped apart more families than Trump? its fine when Dems do it bc they dont say the bad things.
Remember how Victor actively encourages violence even though he has no intention of participating in it or suffering its consequences?
the Dems are just mad they arent in charge of deportations anymore. remember how Biden and Obama ripped apart more families than Trump? its fine when Dems do it bc they dont say the bad things.
Lets remember Obama only deported 3 million plus white folks no browns
Remember how Victor actively encourages violence even though he has no intention of participating in it or suffering its consequences?
bro you support kidnapping Ukrainian middle aged men off the streets to die gruesome deaths in the vain hopes to hurt Putin.
Did he refer to them as “garbage”, like AdolfHitler or DonaldTrump?
Try as you may, Lozen, there is no defense for supporting Trump (this includes making excuses for him) at this point. He is a tumor that needs to be removed.
want to see Dems become indistinguishable from Magas even in rhetoric? just say Dearborn.
bro you support kidnapping Ukrainian middle aged men off the streets to die gruesome deaths in the vain hopes to hurt Putin.
No I don’t?? The **** are you babbling about?
