President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
I do not agree with it either but I still ask you this why were you all silent when Obama did it ?
Would you support a bill that allowed anyone that has been here prior to Joe Bidens open borders a path to citizenship and the rest must go ?
Also what do you consider anti trans prejudices? Against men in women's sports? against men in women's locker rooms ?
I wasn't following this forum in 2015 or earlier. Could you fill me in on what coordi thought about Obama's deportation policies at that time?
Thanks in advance.
No I get what your saying but its tough to handle the hypocrisy
Your outraged at Trump deportations but silent when Obama did it
I think Obama's policy of focusing on people convicted of crimes while deporting massively less people than Clinton or Bush was a step in the right direction. By the end of Obama's time in office, 90% of people being deported were convicted of other crimes. Trump made a total mess of that, remarkably deporting less overall but somehow more non criminals. The next president will likely have to recreate Obama era policies after Trump inevitably fails again.
I think Obama's policy of focusing on people convicted of crimes while deporting massively less people than Clinton or Bush was a step in the right direction. By the end of Obama's time in office, 90% of people being deported were convicted of other crimes. Trump made a total mess of that, remarkably deporting less overall but somehow more non criminals. The next president
Dems do fascism the right way
This tracks with Trump's accusations of Democrats paying for protesters.
His history of accusing others of what he has done is at this point legendary.
One of the "Blacks for trump" in the background of many of his rallies
admitted he was paid to be there wearing the shirt and holding the signs.
I've been wondering what happened to you really, you claimed seeing the gaza debacle was the triggering but it also sounds like you had a stroke or an aneurysm.
Back on topic, all these bothside'ism are pretty ridiculous and of bad faith (like most of the time with both sides...).
It's like saying ''look you criticitze police but Obama had police too, checkmate libs!''
Wtf logic is this?
The difference is in the use of said force/corp/tool, the message you convey, etc...
Example:
-Obama uses ICE to deport mostly convicted people and/or block people at border.
-Trump supposedly says the same (with catastrophic % results btw) while adding the overall message of cruelty being mandatory, racism be mandatory, etc..
If you can't see the difference then I guess I'm sorry for you.
You actually remind me of people saying '' you say you hate technology but you use a phone!! checkmate idiot!! ''
It’ll always be funny as **** for me to see headlines sounding the alarm about income inequality and wealth redistribution like the right wing making their 100 year mission to beat the drum about stupid ass bullshit problems that don’t exist at all like guns, abortions, transgender rights, immigration, WOKENESS so in the cover of darkness they can take every dollar
In its extreme form, the debate is not very interesting to me personally. A debate on whether is good for society that the extremely greedy extract hundreds of billions from subsidized (directly or indirectly) companies while society decides whether it can afford food for the hungry is just stupid.
However, there is a debate hidden beneath the muck. A debate on production vs pollution, regulation vs invention, job creation vs stagnation / recession etc. When we remove the extreme positions which are dominated by the corrupt and people seeking clout on social media anyway, the debate becomes far more interesting and important.
However, there is a debate hidden beneath the muck. A debate on production vs pollution, regulation vs invention, job creation vs stagnation / recession etc. When we remove the extreme positions which are dominated by the corrupt and people seeking clout on social media anyway, the debate becomes far more interesting and important.
And another layer on top of this is a more philosophical question about the point of life. You live in Europe right? It seems to me at some level generally Europeans realize that they have chosen stagnation over growth, but also have kind of a nihilistic attitude this is fine.
And another layer on top of this is a more philosophical question about the point of life. You live in Europe right? It seems to me at some level generally Europeans realize that they have chosen stagnation over growth, but also have kind of a nihilistic attitude this is fine.
It's a question of degree, I guess, but for demographic and other reasons, i'm skeptical that any basket of policies could lead to rapid economic growth in the U.S., Japan, most countries in Western Europe, etc., even if such policies were viable to implement, and even if you didn't care about the collateral consequences of the policies.
It occurred to me this morning that risk averse Republicans in Congress are probably one of the soft targets of Trump's rhetoric about a third term.
When people talk about a president being a lame duck, they aren't just talking the president's diminishing ability to bully the opposition party. Just as much, they are talking about the president's diminishing ability to control his own party.
In other words, no matter his actual intentions, Trump may see some advantage in creating just a flicker of doubt in the minds of squishy Republicans about whether they might, just might, have to deal with him after 2028.
A president who actually cared about the national interest and democratic norms wouldn't tease this sort thing for this sort of reason, but Trump of course doesn't care about that stuff.
I think Obama's policy of focusing on people convicted of crimes while deporting massively less people than Clinton or Bush was a step in the right direction.
It says here:-- Bush 870,000 'removals' (that is, deportations), Clinton 2 million, Obama 3 million. Clinton only comes out top if you include 'returns', people turned back at the border, which brings his total to around 12 million. Trump oversaw just 1.2 million removals of people actually in the US during his first term, less than half of Obama's tally.
-Trump supposedly says the same (with catastrophic % results btw) while adding the overall message of cruelty being mandatory, racism be mandatory, etc..
There is a fair bit of truth in this. For a variety of reasons, including the difficulty of the task and the general incompetence of the administration in executing its own plans, I didn't really expect the Trump administration to deport a lot more people than recent administrations. I did expect the administration to treat deportees in a much more dehumanizing way, which seems to be the case.
I suspect that Trump privately would characterize this treatment as a feature, not a bug, of his immigration policy. He wants people to be afraid that they will be treated miserably if they attempt to enter the country (or remain in the county) unlawfully. I guess everyone can form their own opinion about the ethics of that approach to immigration.
It doesn't get more hilarious than the people who cried about Obama having open borders for years and years and how we need a tough president on immigration are now saying that Obama did the same stuff Trump is doing.
Just lmfao.
He wants people to be afraid that they will be treated miserably if they attempt to enter the country (or remain in the county) unlawfully.
I don't think it's that coherent. He's just a narcissist with psychotic and sadistic tendencies. And now with a ladling of dementia that is getting more pronounced week by week.
I don't think he's even capable of tolerating delayed gratification or even thinking at a shallow level about a political stratagem to reduce immigration, his joy is in hurting and scaring people in the here and now.
There is a fair bit of truth in this. For a variety of reasons, including the difficulty of the task and the general incompetence of the administration in executing its own plans, I didn't really expect the Trump administration to deport a lot more people than recent administrations. I did expect the administration to treat deportees in a much more dehumanizing way, which seem
The UK had (still has) a hostile environment policy. Introduced officially by the tories but labour aren't much better
In 2012, Theresa May, who was the Conservative Home Secretary at the time, introduced the Hostile Environment Policy saying that: "The aim is to create, here in Britain, a really hostile environment for illegal immigrants".[1] In May 2007, Liam Byrne, who was the Labour immigration minister at the time, had referred to a "hostile environment" in an announcement of a consultation document: "We are trying to create a much more hostile environment in this country if you are here illegally".[18]
Do u believe in the concept of having a regulated/legalized way to go lived in the US?
Or a country should be open to anyone just based on the wishes of people wanting to live in the US ?
It doesn't get more hilarious than the people who cried about Obama having open borders for years and years and how we need a tough president on immigration are now saying that Obama did the same stuff Trump is doing.
Just lmfao.
You're mixing up Obama and Biden.
Hey, he's not as dumb as he sounds!
I don't think it's that coherent. He's just a narcissist with psychotic and sadistic tendencies. And now with a ladling of dementia that is getting more pronounced week by week.I don't think he's even capable of tolerating delayed gratification or even thinking at a shallow level about a political stratagem to reduce immigration, his joy is in hurting and scaring people in the
I wonder how little Donny would have scored on the Stanford Marshmallow Experiment. Too bad it wasn't invented until 1970. Maybe now that he's in his second childhood, it could be administered soon, like before his next MRI. it would be great to hear him talking about how he passed the very difficult test.
I know this has been posted already, but this completely sums up everything that is trump in one picture.
More republican corruption pardoned. It's like almost every day it seems.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/07...
President Donald Trump has pardoned former Tennessee House Speaker Glen Casada, who was handed a 36-month sentence in September for fraud, money laundering and conspiracy charges tied to a scheme involving constituent mailer services.
I know this has been posted already, but this completely sums up everything that is trump in one picture.
Trump is doing that old man clown thing where he pulls his pants up extra high without shortening his tie, which makes his tie look extra long.
