The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet

11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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by Montrealcorp

Nah
Home price in Alberta range from 400k to 575k
In Newfoundland it’s around 290k !

Imagine , you said it yourself , Newfoundland are broke and still they contribute more then Alberta …
You don’t see the incoherence ?

What are you talking about? What do home prices have to do with government spending?


by Shifty86

Does that include their paid holidays, 2 weeks at Christmas, 1 week in Nov and March and summers? There's 6 schools in my area, parking lots are empty by 4. Marking a paper at home while watching the Jays game isn't the same as a nurse on the ER who I would say works long hours.

As per the alberta education act, teachers are NOT paid for vacations such as summer or christmas (and often have to work during other non-school days). However, their pay is distributed into 12 month paychecks.


by Shifty86

Does that include their paid holidays, 2 weeks at Christmas, 1 week in Nov and March and summers? There's 6 schools in my area, parking lots are empty by 4. Marking a paper at home while watching the Jays game isn't the same as a nurse on the ER who I would say works long hours.

by uke_master

As per the alberta education act, teachers are NOT paid for vacations such as summer or christmas (and often have to work during other non-school days). However, their pay is distributed into 12 month paychecks.

Comparing a teacher to a nurse seems like a long shot . Nurses work set hours and get paid an hourly rate if they work overtime they get an overtime rate. I have no clue how a nurses salary compares to a teachers .

Speaking to my sister a retired special needs teacher and Vice Principal she says the issue is more about class size and difficulties teaching when you have special needs students and english as a second language students in classes that are way to large is just not a good learning environment at all

I think comparing University teachers like Uke to grade 1-12 is not a good idea either not that I doubt Uke takes work home with him


I'm mostly joking about the person comment - I've dug my own workoholic grave all on my own😃


by uke_master

I'm mostly joking about the person comment - I've dug my own workoholic grave all on my own😃

And most teachers do but it amazes me how many teachers call it quits once they hit that magic number


Attrition in teaching is a huge problem - and quite a bit before any magic numbers. But the job is draining, a lot of work, not a lot of pay relatively. One could work to make those conditions better like say smaller class size or more supports for students with IEPs (let alone higher pay). Or one could use the notwithstanding clause.


by uke_master

Attrition in teaching is a huge problem - and quite a bit before any magic numbers. But the job is draining, a lot of work, not a lot of pay relatively. One could work to make those conditions better like say smaller class size or more supports for students with IEPs (let alone higher pay). Or one could use the notwithstanding clause.

Not often I agree with your whole post 😀


by lozen

Comparing a teacher to a nurse seems like a long shot . Nurses work set hours and get paid an hourly rate if they work overtime they get an overtime rate. I have no clue how a nurses salary compares to a teachers .

I wasn't comparing...

For government union professions I said I would consider a nurse to work long hours, not a teacher.


by uke_master

As per the alberta education act, teachers are NOT paid for vacations such as summer or christmas (and often have to work during other non-school days). However, their pay is distributed into 12 month paychecks.

Lol yes they aren't paid hourly for holidays. But they receive a pay cheque over Christmas and the summer.

To my knowledge they also don't have performance reviews, SMART goals, etc. which is common is most other professions.


by Shifty86

Lol yes they aren't paid hourly for holidays. But they receive a pay cheque over Christmas and the summer.

To my knowledge they also don't have performance reviews, SMART goals, etc. which is common is most other professions.

Oh it’s next to impossible to fire a teacher


by Shifty86

I wasn't comparing...

For government union professions I said I would consider a nurse to work long hours, not a teacher.

Well that’s probably cause there is a shortage of those as well


by lozen

Well that’s probably cause there is a shortage of those as well

No, because working a 12 hour back shift is different than 8-3 with summers off.


by Shifty86

What are you talking about? What do home prices have to do with government spending?

Really ?
Government spending includes salaries .
And you don’t see the correlation between house prices being much higher and government spending that include wages or “higher/better work conditions “ ????
Wow…


by Montrealcorp

Really ?
Government spending includes salaries .
And you don’t see the correlation between house prices being much higher and government spending that include wages or “higher/better work conditions “ ????
Wow…

Lol. I really would be shocked if your IQ was over 80.

Houses are cheaper in nfld because nobody wants to live there, funding is probably higher because teachers don't want to live/work there, it's a small dispersed population with a bunch of small schools in small communities, further bus routes, etc. There's a million factors other than home prices? lol.

When it comes to government spending I don't think nfld is the model we should be looking at to copy lol.


by Shifty86

Lol. I really would be shocked if your IQ was over 80. Houses are cheaper in nfld because nobody wants to live there, funding is probably higher because teachers don't want to live/work there, it's a small dispersed population with a bunch of small schools in small communities, further bus routes, etc. There's a million factors other than home prices? lol. When it comes to gove

The problem with your logic is that Newfoundland is dead last but ahead of Alberta …
While Alberta is the richest .
The principle is when u give less money then a place “where no one wants to live” , no wonder u will end up with a conflict when u are the one gaining the most money in the economy while wanting to giving less .

So those teachers probably got houses to pay as well ….
Much higher then those at Newfoundland .

It’s simple arithmetic.
Even for my 80 IQ .

Ps: but if your message is Alberta doesn’t deserve the best educational system while having the highest income per capita ?
And instead drop dead last in Canada vs welfare provinces ???
Well it’s a strange idea u are welcome to share shrug

And certainly don’t come here like Miss smith and says we care about our children and students while being dead last in spending lol…….


I bet alot of teachers put in 18-30 hours too


by uke_master

Don't most teachers work a bunch of hours outside of the classroom, so that their actual average hours per week is above normal despite their paid hours not reflecting that? I didn't regoogle, but I seem to remember seeing averages in the 50 hours/week range.

god bless ai. bring on my robot overlords


by Shifty86

No, because working a 12 hour back shift is different than 8-3 with summers off.

This is a weird post. Surely you are aware they don’t do 12 hour shifts 5 days a week, right? Like it might be shifts every 9 days or whatever? And they are richly paid for overtime.

Like I don’t know why you are even comparing nurses and teachers in the first place, they are very different professions, but like doing this based on the length of the shift is a bit silly


He's being a contrarian just to be one.


This is becoming more common . What is a reasonable punishment for an individual like this?


by uke_master

This is a weird post. Surely you are aware they don’t do 12 hour shifts 5 days a week, right? Like it might be shifts every 9 days or whatever? And they are richly paid for overtime. Like I don’t know why you are even comparing nurses and teachers in the first place, they are very different professions, but like doing this based on the length of the shift is a bit s

I'm not sure you guys can read. Lozen said teachers work long hours...I was simply using nurses as an example of a government union profession that actually works long hours. There is a reason they are paid OT and teachers aren't, the joke forever (until now apparently) was finding a job that was as good as a teachers schedule.


by Shifty86

I'm not sure you guys can read. Lozen said teachers work long hours...I was simply using nurses as an example of a government union profession that actually works long hours. There is a reason they are paid OT and teachers aren't, the joke forever (until now apparently) was finding a job that was as good as a teachers schedule.

Yes and Uke whom is a teacher and my sister as well whom is a teacher and a few close friends I have that are teachers all say they work more than 40 hours a week while your saying they work 8-3 . Do you have any teachers in your family or close friends


by lozen

Yes and Uke whom is a teacher and my sister as well whom is a teacher and a few close friends I have that are teachers all say they work more than 40 hours a week while your saying they work 8-3 . Do you have any teachers in your family or close friends

Lol of course. I grew up in competitive golf, half the people I played with became teachers so they could golf all summer.

Most people that work 40 hour/week salary positions work more than 40 hours a week.


by Shifty86

I'm not sure you guys can read. Lozen said teachers work long hours...I was simply using nurses as an example of a government union profession that actually works long hours. There is a reason they are paid OT and teachers aren't, the joke forever (until now apparently) was finding a job that was as good as a teachers schedule.

Except you didn't show that. Sure nurses have long shifts, but they work less days per week. Plenty of teachers work more hours than nurses do in a week.

You're entire shtick here of trying to minimize the work teachers are doing seems pretty silly, but at least try and make good points in that direction if you are convinced of doing this.


by uke_master

Except you didn't show that. Sure nurses have long shifts, but they work less days per week. Plenty of teachers work more hours than nurses do in a week.

You're entire shtick here of trying to minimize the work teachers are doing seems pretty silly, but at least try and make good points in that direction if you are convinced of doing this.

LONG hours. Not more hours.

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