Nicholas J. Fuentes, Candace Owens, and other Right Wing Grifters

They could also choose to interview decent people and / or brilliant people, instead of a Nazi influencer.

When you focus too much on interviewing political morons, there isn't any time left for the rest. This is not a hypothetical, these days it is a genuine problem that both media and social media focus far too much on idiots and hatemongers.

Unfortunately, the networks don't typically interview those folks either.

I certainly agree with that.

Lol I wonder if you would refer to Gains as like an “Islamist”. This is the same guy who on the fresh and fit podcast interviews like eight or 10 only fans women on a podcast for three hours.

The issue is that CNN And left-wing and right wing influencers on YouTube talk about Fuentes. And so they do a disservice to the viewer by not interviewing the guy and then asking them whatever tough questions they want or criticizing him in any way they want. That’s a low class thing to do..

How many times have you seen a segment on the news network where someone does an intro criticizing a political influencer and then they bring the guy on for an interview. That’s just basic journalism.

I think you were out ahead of this too, but a small handful of us accurately (again) predicted there would be an antisemetic "crisis" within the younger Republicans

I point this out more as evidence that some of us actually do understand this ecosystem deeply and it would behoove others to notice that and listen to people who can actually wrap their heads around everything that is going on and parse what is happening, what is going to happen, and what that all means

Because maybe people like me aren't so ****ing crazy after all

Gaines self-identifies as Muslim (per wikipedia).

This also touches on how Dems are their own worst enemies where Lefties are currently dragging Kamala through the coals over "genocide" and literal Jew Hating borderline Nazis are voting Republican despite Israel being their closest ally because they understand that they get everything else they want even if it means putting up with the Jews

its extremely difficult to come off as more of a clown than Dave AIPACman but Gaines rose to the occasion. both are talentless grifters.

He certainly does. I just wanted to make it clear to the reader who knows nothing about him that he is not a “Islamist” …. He has a podcast called fresh and fit with millions of followers mostly young men but also some women where they discuss things like masculinity. Often they bring on eight or 10 only fans girls and criticize them. … they talk about things like high value men , OF girls not being able to attract wealthy “high value men” and the dating ecosystem at least their view on these things. I don’t agree with their direction often. I’m simply pointing out the background of this guy which Dunyain did not do. Here’s one example of one of the videos where obviously you don’t have to wash the whole thing, but even just watching a few moments of it, you can see the type of material that fresh and fit engaged in. Hardly anything at all related to conservative Islam.

And again it’s so easy to deconstruct the views of someone like Fuentes or gains. And again people like Ben Shapiro or those who are paid contributors or whoever appeared on Fox News, like Robert Spencer, Bridget Gabriel, or Pam Geller has said equally as bad things of Muslims as the people mentioned in the thread have about Jews. So the hypocrisy is so wide open when it comes to people like Dunyain and how they respond to somebody like Fuentez by simply calling them a Nazi. Again, it is so easy to counter and deconstruct the views of Fuentes just like it is with Shapiro and that should be done ….my message to the likes of Dunyain is stop just calling people racist actually deconstruct and oppose their views with context.

It's the extreme position that gets the views and the arguments started and then the repeated views. Your boring educated middleman just can't compete with that and no one wants to take a pay cut to do that. So we have what we have as a result but it also leads to the politics that we have.

I agree with what you are saying here.

Ah journalism again ! Asking the tough questions …..yeah not long ago Dan Rather interviewed Saddam Hussein…..that’s for low iq folks who only yell “nazi , racist troll or lol” wrt Tucker interviewing Nick.

Got a disagreement with Nick woke righties and lefties ? You think he “hates joos”(lol at folk who say joos btw) then lay out the argument. Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, , Bill Maher, Sam Harris are some of the most well-known righties and lefties who openly criticize Islam. Do I bitch about it? Nope I disagree with them and I lay out why in a constructive way.

They ain’t going anywhere …. They are among the most popular influencers in the country. Though Nick is not nearly as popular as Tucker who has tens of millions of followers. But yeah take that MIGA Ben Shapiro and Nikki Haley …you lose! Freedom prevails.

You seems completely obsessed .
I listened 30 secs and there is just nothing new to tucker, he's still the same old **** with just refined tunes for the better grift.
Gotta love when he complains about people calling you names and branding you , when he built a carreer out of calling out people and spreading hate.

The other dude, fuentes, trollolol when he says '' I come from a normal background ya know, catholic family ... not weird family.''

Views , views, views!!!

You claimed you listened for "30 secs", and yet I'm over two minutes into the video and haven't heard the quote your quoted.

Are you [strike]lying[/strike] mistaken about the quote or about the fact that you only listened for 30 seconds?

Oh boy you are indeed as stupid as you are claiming!

I clicked a random point into the video (ok I clicked 3 times in 2 secs) and listened to the bit I quote.

And no I won't go through it to find it, but since you are very linear I'm sure you will.

Indeed!

So, you listened to a random point in the video, listened for about 30 seconds and heard not only the quote itself but somehow understood the context of the quote (which may or may not have been a callback to an earlier portion of the interview). Kewl!

You and OP the Crusader are completely delusional on this point. Guys like Nick Fuentes salivate at the idea of having their ideas on race debated on major media.

Tucker and NF are both feds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGT2O7Un...

Much money and effort is invested in shaping public opinion. Influencer culture is a psyop for top down control. Anyone who gets millions of views on CIA owned and operated social media is almost certainly a fed.

lol, pretending that some Twitter rando speaks for the "American Muslim community" is astonishingly racist, even by Kelhus's usual standards of knuckle-dragging bigotry.

You are showing your age here. Myron is an extremely popular social media personality over various platforms, targeting a mostly young adult audience.

If one were to critique my argument, it would be to question whether his antisemitism is just a personal affect, or whether he speaks for other Muslims.

I will say he routinely goes on antisemitic rants on shows with millions of people watching and gets no pushback from the Muslim community.

So do with that information as you will.

He's extremely popular but that doesn't mean he's heavily supported. When you take those claims public, you're going to get an insane amount of people watching and commenting, driving up the algorithm for his videos.

He's obviously going to have a large fan base of fools, but many of his views are likely just for entertainment, people just watching his videos because they were posted, like us here and thousands of similar situations like that. He probably gets a lot of pushback, but who's interested in watching those videos?

Dunyain is here to score points not for an honest conversation. He never mentioned how Gains mostly talks about dating and masculinity. Most of Gains audience is non-Muslims. Mostly young men, but also a lot of middle-aged women who have also appeared on his platform. He will often on the fresh and fit podcast host a bunch of only fans girls, but then we’ll throw in perhaps a middle-aged teacher or professional businesswoman. From his few posts on Gains some readers would be led to believe that he speaks for like “Islamism” or in some sort of leadership position on the Muslim religion. …..It is so laughable.

But again let Dunyain and whatever hasbara type people say whatever they want. They are losing due to their tactics which of course include the annoying “racist!” Accusations but never any rebuttal.

Yeah ok go ahead and allow Sam Harris and Bill Maher to say whatever they want about Islam but major media platforms are not platforming bigots there….just doing that with Carlson. As Fuentes has yet to appear on CNN or Fox. And he Carlson is not even on interviews on CNN or Fox after his ridiculous firing from Fox. So these Dunyain types are making arguments that are so completely removed from reality. It is incredible. That’s why the most logical approach is to hear out what somebody like Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Tucker or yes even Nick Fuentes has to say and debate their points.. stop the whining and moaning about bigotry. I’m even saying this as somebody who respects Islam. It gets so tiring to hear people slam someone like Bill Maher as a bigot without actually responding to the points he makes.

Not to mention how they say “bots!” With regards to the incredible popularity of people like Candace Owens and Carlson. Yet when you see Carlson go speak in front of an audience of young Republicans he gets a thunderous applause, but again “bots”… so again these types of folks are just here to try to win argument points, not here for a legit conversation.

I don't recall anyone disagreeing with Fuentes wanting his views on race debated on major media.