1/2: K♦️T♦️ facing turn xr on 832♦️♦️

1/2: K♦️T♦️ facing turn xr on 832♦️♦️

Hand:

$1/$2 NL — $685 eff
UTG straddle $5
Two limps
Hero (BTN) raises to $35 with KT
UTG1 limper + straddler call

Flop ($110): 843
Checks to Hero → Hero bets $50 → UTG1 calls, UTG folds

Turn ($210): J
Villain checks → Hero bets $125 → Villain check-raises to $300 with $300 behind..

Hero?

Reads: Villain is some unknown fish who just sat down and called off his $300 stack with AQo high and binked river, probably some sort of loose passive whale.

Thoughts:

I c-bet flop for value + equity. On the turn, I know it’s not a great card to rep compared to A/K/Q but I decided to barrel $125 anyway thinking I can fold out small pairs/gutters a ton and maybe pick up some folds from 8x or A-high while still having ~30% equity if called. But I wasn’t sure if this spot is a mandatory check-back instead?

Once he check-raises to $300, what’s the right move? Do we have the right implied odds to call with $300 behind?

15 October 2025 at 10:19 AM
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Considering that you are losing to some of his bluffs and aren't drawing to the nuts, it is an easy fold.


I would be much more likely to check back flop than turn. Low connected flops are bad for your range, and it's good to have some strong flush draws in your check-back range. Checking back flop also basically guarantees that you can see the river and realize your equity.

Turn is a decent card for you to bluff -- he really shouldn't have much JX, while I assume you have a decent amount. As played, it's a fold facing the XR. I would prob continue with AKdd, AQdd, A5dd, and maybe my best combo draws. If V is finding the XR with a combo draw himself (which you block) then GG. Those hands have a ton of equity versus yours anyway.


Preflop raise is huge (7x straddle). What range do you put UTG1 on when he limp/calls?

For the previous HH AQ is a pretty good hand, would want to know more about the hand.

Flop is weird, I wouldn't mind a 3rd pot flop bet if you'd raised to 20 or 25 pre. because you raised BTN and can be wider ... but half pot when you made it 35 seems like a lot, you'll be lost on a lot of turns if he calls and you don't hit a flush.

V calling half pot on the flop I would then roughly range at: overpairs, 8x, sets, decent draws. If you think he's also calling stuff like QJ/KJ/AJ, then that's not great for you on turn cards that "hit your range".

Turn I probably check, Jx is the worst broadway, giving you no extra outs and there's some chance he has J8/T9/97/cc that raises ... plus the 88/44/33 hands. And the fact you are praying V folds and only have like 20% even if your flush and all Kx are good.

After the raise it's an easy fold.


7x is sort of standard in a 1/2 game after a straddle and 2 limps. A 5x open is sort of standard in most 1/2 games, so 7x with 2 limpers. He got 2 callers. You could go smaller if people will be intimidated by the raise size in absolute terms, and not adjusting to there being a straddle. You are dealing with low stakes players who want to see a flop. It depends: at some tables people will limp and fold to a largish raise.


by deuceblocker

7x is sort of standard in a 1/2 game after a straddle and 2 limps. A 5x open is sort of standard in most 1/2 games

I'd probably open to 12 (6x) if it was just an EP limp, but in my experience 1-2 players are a lot more aware of absolute size and so a bit less spewy vs. large $ amount bets, even if it's the same BB ... so with a straddle I'd mostly be opening to 20 without the limp and 25 with it (4x or 5x straddle).

Also limp/3bets tend to be more common if straddles are happening, esp. if people open to 35.

As an exploit I don't hate preflop, but I think you then have to be aware of it postflop when called. Esp. that 50% pot bets post will generally look stronger and be reacted to stronger.


Versus a loose/passive whale, not sure I can fold unless the passive part is serious -- as in you have not seen him raise like this? More info on AQ hand or any info on his raising hands would be nice.

I think $35 is fine in games like this. They call way too wide or you just take it down. I'd never go less than $25.

(Also, OP is a little off -- UTG should come before UTG1.)


Seems close. We're getting 3.5:1 which is almost the right price straight up. If he is bad enough to pay us off with two pair when the obvious front door draw comes in, then I call. If he's the type to say "the flush got there, you must have the flush" then fold. I disagree with other posters who say he could have the ace high draw...it's very unlikely this player type would commit to this kind of bluff. We are going to be good 99% of the time on a non board pairing diamond IMO.

I would do two things differently to avoid this tough spot:

1) Check back turn (has to be mixed well with strength to work, but a very profitable play overall)
2) Consider limping pre. Very weak players will often be limping with better hands than yours. You could be in a world of pain if this guy has AT or KJ and you both hit it. So consider keeping the pot small with this rather weak hand and hope to hit.


Call flop, raise turn is usually such a nutted line, especially someone passive.

Feels an easy fold.


Grunch:

PRE - the raise size seems a tad large, but maybe it's fine in a splashy game.

FLOP - I don't hate a c-bet, but it seems like we can go smaller, like $35 again, or maybe $40. I don't really love bloating the pot against two opponents who could have really wide ranges and are naturally checking to us.

TURN - I don't like the 1/2-ish pot bet size. V has a pretty capped range, so I think we should size up and bet at least 2/3 pot, if not more.

I might also check back sometimes with a hand like KTdd that hates getting check-raised. We can make a decent top pair on a K. We block draws like T9 that we can target for value. We also block combos like JT and T8 that we can make fold with a big river bet.

As played, when we bet 1/2 pot and V x/r's on a disconnected high card, it sucks, but it's a pretty trivial fold now. This is usually going to be 2P+, or at least pair + a draw, and we're drawing pretty slim.


by LifeNitFL

Seems close. We're getting 3.5:1 which is almost the right price straight up. If he is bad enough to pay us off with two pair when the obvious front door draw comes in, then I call. If he's the type to say "the flush got there, you must have the flush" then fold. I disagree with other posters who say he could have the ace high draw...it's very unlikely this player type would co

I was also feeling like the turn was a call (and check behind first) but thinking it over it feels like a fold.
AdJd is the one possible combo that has us in very bad shape. But there are other combos (sets, two pair) where some of our flush out make a boat for vil. Given we have maybe 7 clean outs, potential bad RIO, I don't think the price is right.


flop is probably a bit too big you want bad hands to call

turn bet size could be a bit bigger, i dont think i would ever check this card.

as played fold, your pair outs are probably no good and you dont have odds for the flush


by LifeNitFL

Seems close. We're getting 3.5:1 which is almost the right price straight up. If he is bad enough to pay us off with two pair when the obvious front door draw comes in, then I call. If he's the type to say "the flush got there, you must have the flush" then fold. I disagree with other posters who say he could have the ace high draw...it's very unlikely this player type would co

i think this is horrendous advice

1) dont limp pre, you want to isolate weak players and build pots vs. them in position. limping here and playing bingo doesnt do that. your edge in NL comes from position and isolation of recs, not making so-so hands in small pots. every time you are in a hand and have position in NL your focus should not be on making hands, it should be on how to exploit your position to outplay weaker players. anytime i play a hand that isnt a premium i always assume i will whiff and will have to navigate postflop.

2) checking back turn here is being result-oriented you almost never get CRd here and will get tons of folds.

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