President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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You don't understand voting, or the fact that unless all of humanity is enlightened, you're always voting for the lesser of the evils.

I have to be honest, I think most kids would understand this if you explained this to them.

Morality isn’t binary, it’s comparative. Voting is about damage minimization, not moral self-display.


I understand the Jacob meme just fine. I just dont support the 99% Hitler party. you do.




It’s also nonsense to say you’re morally obliged to vote for the 99% Hitler party.


by Victor

does anyone argue that Trump is a good thing? meanwhile the internet and the media is full of people who try to convince me that the Dems are a force of good.

For sure republicans would consider you today in “ silent majority” .
Thx for not voting …


by Victor

you guys keep doing the meme

Yes. Or my preferred analogy, Hitler and GigaHitler.


by FreakDaddy

You don't understand voting, or the fact that unless all of humanity is enlightened, you're always voting for the lesser of the evils.

I have to be honest, I think most kids would understand this if you explained this to them.

Morality isn’t binary, it’s comparative. Voting is about damage minimization, not moral self-display.

+1
Nobody or thing is perfect …
If you wait for perfection to take a stand by voting , good luck .


by jalfrezi

It’s also nonsense to say you’re morally obliged to vote for the 99% Hitler party.

This guy wants 60,000 extra Jews to die I guess.


by jalfrezi

If ballot papers aren’t going to have a “None of the above” box at the bottom, they should at least have a box for the Dems, one for the Republicans, another for the Dems - lesser of two evils, and similarly for the republicans.

There are a few countries were non of the above is a choice and if none of the above wins neither candidate can run again . Would have been a great choice for the USA last election


by lozen

There are a few countries were non of the above is a choice and if none of the above wins neither candidate can run again . Would have been a great choice for the USA last election

if was the same in law school for class president.

Person A
Person B
Person C
Re-Open Nominations

There was always a big push for RON


by checkraisdraw

This guy wants 60,000 extra Jews to die I guess.

This guy can't wait to vote for 5,940,000 Jews to die.


by Montrealcorp

+1
Nobody or thing is perfect …
If you wait for perfection to take a stand by voting , good luck .

Ummm... false. Victor is perfect, and he will only vote for the perfect party.


by jalfrezi

This guy can't wait to vote for 5,940,000 Jews to die.

When the alternative is 6 million you’re actually voting to save the 60k.

How far does your principle go? What if it was 6 million vs 3 million or 6 million vs 500k? You would still say “i DoN’T vOtE fOr gEnOcIde?”


by FreakDaddy

Ummm... false. Victor is perfect, and he will only vote for the perfect party.

It's not about voting. Don't really care who you vote for. It's the fact that you guys actually the think the Dems are an active force for good.


by Victor

It's not about voting. Don't really care who you vote for. It's the fact that you guys actually the think the Dems are an active force for good.

Oh... oh... ok... ya.

Who was saying that?


by Victor

It's not about voting. Don't really care who you vote for. It's the fact that you guys actually the think the Dems are an active force for good.

Since you are just repeating things you've said a million times I'm just going to repeat something I've said 2 or 3 times

US Aid is the perfect example of this. Starving kids in Africa receiving aid, even under the assumption of soft power, is certainly better than those kids just starving

Is your stance that kids starving is the same level of "good" as kids not starving?


Have you heard of consequentialism? It's about choosing the option that minimizes suffering, saying it's the ethically superior to inaction that permits greater harm given the constraints and reality of the current contained system.

You think both sides are the same, and create the same harm upon the world. There's no reasoning with you. This quote wholly applies to you:

"You can't reason someone out of a viewpoint that they didn't reason themselves into."

You didn't get to your current world view via reason, you got there via emotion.


ok my bad, thats the feeling I got from many Dem voter posts on here. I am glad we agree that the Dems are actually harmful to the world. now we can work on moving to the next step of understanding that they may be worse than the Repubs. after all, dont you guys consider the Dems better for America than the Repubs?


by Victor

ok my bad, thats the feeling I got from many Dem voter posts on here. I am glad we agree that the Dems are actually harmful to the world. now we can work on moving to the next step of understanding that they may be worse than the Repubs. after all, dont you guys consider the Dems better for America than the Repubs?

Well, if you think that, then good for you.

You voted for Trump then?

What consequences do you think will occur worldwide, if democracy falls in America? Have you got that far?


I dont think we really have democracy in the America so it cant really fall.


by coordi

Since you are just repeating things you've said a million times I'm just going to repeat something I've said 2 or 3 times

US Aid is the perfect example of this. Starving kids in Africa receiving aid, even under the assumption of soft power, is certainly better than those kids just starving

Is your stance that kids starving is the same level of "good" as kids not starving?

I think USAID strengthens US Imperial control and probably kills more people than it saves. and no, I dont think whatever Trump is replacing it with will be "better".


by Victor

I dont think we really have democracy in the America so it cant really fall.

And this is why it's pointless engaging with you. You think in purely simple binary terms. It's either all something, or none of something.

Yes, Victor... America is increasingly an oligarchy. Billionaires and corporate lobbyist largely shape American policy. But it's still a democracy, and saying you don't think it is, just makes you sound silly.


it kind of sounds like you are doing the binary thing here. American style Democracy wont really "fall", it will just continue creeping towards fascism and the impact will be that the atrocities and oppression will be turned even more inward on its citizens. obv this will be bad for Americans, but maybe it will be good for the world as America will have less resources to murder and plunder the rest of the world.


by checkraisdraw

When the alternative is 6 million you’re actually voting to save the 60k.

How far does your principle go? What if it was 6 million vs 3 million or 6 million vs 500k? You would still say “i DoN’T vOtE fOr gEnOcIde?”

No I would never say that because I'm not a child who types like that. Grow up.


by Victor

it kind of sounds like you are doing the binary thing here. American style Democracy wont really "fall", it will just continue creeping towards fascism and the impact will be that the atrocities and oppression will be turned even more inward on its citizens. obv this will be bad for Americans, but maybe it will be good for the world as America will have less resources to murd

Doing the binary thing? What does that even mean?

No, Victor... I vote. I help campaign, and help candidates that aren't fascist. That's called... wait for it... democracy. And guess what Victor... some of them even get into office and do great things. I know, I know... it's probably blowing your mind because it's all bad in your head. But really... it's happens.

So you ignored the question...

You voted for Trump then, correct? The dems are worse in your world. So, obviously you voted for him... right?

This is rhetorical btw... I know the answer. You're a dishonest conversationalist.

What you wrote is so sophomoric.... Ok, America is the great evil empire, let's destroy it. What do you think happens next in your mind? Everything is suddenly all good. You don't think someone else will pick up the mantle of empire? And that empire will be more benevolent? I'm guessing you haven't really thought this through very well.

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