The murder of Charlie Kirk

The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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by Montrealcorp

i obviously was speaking about the US 😀

If you bothered to read the whole question, that's literally what I was asking.


Including Lettuce Liz is a bit of a reach...



by Elrazor

If you bothered to read the whole question, that's literally what I was asking.

not sure which question was it specifically but i bet it will end up the same answer i already gave.


by thethethe

Including Lettuce Liz is a bit of a reach...

Even a woman this inept made it to the highest office in the UK! although like Harris, she would have never made it had she been put under more rigorous public scrutiny.


by Elrazor

This is OT, but what do you think it is about the US (compared to the UK that has had 3 women Prime Ministers) that the sex of the candidate is an issue?

Prime Ministers are elected in a completely different fashion than Presidents. If the US had a parliamentary system, Clinton would have been elected in 2008 if not someone before.


by ecriture d'adulte

Prime Ministers are elected in a completely different fashion than Presidents. If the US had a parliamentary system, Clinton would have been elected in 2008 if not someone before.

It does not look that way. Women candidates do not appear to succeed with the US electorate.


by ecriture d'adulte

Prime Ministers are elected in a completely different fashion than Presidents. If the US had a parliamentary system, Clinton would have been elected in 2008 if not someone before.

Right* but the real question is would she have been re-elected in 2012. The systems might be different, but at some point the voters get there say, and both May and Thatcher won elections with a significant amount of the popular vote.

*well, maybe you're right she would have beaten McCain, but it not a certainty. Feels like she wasn't particularly popular with Dems, despite having a huge amount of pollical capital behind her.


by 57 On Red

It does not look that way. Women candidates do not appear to succeed with the US electorate.

by Elrazor

Right but the real question is would she have been elected in 2012. The systems might be different, but at some point the voters get there say, and both May and Thatcher won elections with a significant amount of the popular vote.

Oh please Clinton would have won if she had not taken the election for granted. She just assumed states she would win and never stopped in she also turned down the offer from Facebook to provide a team for a social media campaign . If she had Trumps campaign manager she would have won . She already had the furniture picked out and had done a change of address instead of assuming the victory .

Lets not forget Obama was elected and Id say it was harder to get an African American Elected than a woman .

I also think Trump ran a horrible campaign against Biden


by Elrazor

Right* but the real question is would she have been re-elected in 2012. The systems might be different, but at some point the voters get there say, and both May and Thatcher won elections with a significant amount of the popular vote.*well, maybe you're right she would have beaten McCain, but it not a certainty. Feels like she wasn't particularly popular with Dems, despite havi

That you can say the bolded is plenty to show how different the two systems are. Neither was even close to 50% because of the way FPTP works. Both got signficantly lower share of the popular vote in winning than either Clinton or Harris did in losing. That's not saying that May/Thatcher were necessarily less popular overall than Clinton/Harris but the system is so different that it certainly plays a significant role in how easy it is for certain demographics to get elected.


by Elrazor

Even a woman this inept made it to the highest office in the UK!

You're being disingenuous by failing to mention that she didn't win a general election to assume office and merely inherited it from her failed and ousted Conservative predecessor.


by lozen

Oh please Clinton would have won if she had not taken the election for granted. She just assumed states she would win and never stopped in she also turned down the offer from Facebook to provide a team for a social media campaign . If she had Trumps campaign manager she would have won . She already had the furniture picked out and had done a change of address instead of assumin

If Comey didn't announce he was reopening the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election, she would have slaughtered him. Once it was announced, the middle, the ones responsible for deciding elections, had enough of the establishment corruption and took a chance with Trump.

by lozen

Lets not forget Obama was elected and Id say it was harder to get an African American Elected than a woman .

Why do you say that?

by lozen

I also think Trump ran a horrible campaign against Biden

If by running a horrible campaign against Biden you mean the shitshow of his four years as president and absolute clown show with handling covid, then yes, he ran a horrible campaign against Biden.


by Land O Lakes

If Comey didn't announce he was reopening the investigation into Clinton's emails two weeks before the election, she would have slaughtered him. Once it was announced, the middle, the ones responsible for deciding elections, had enough of the establishment corruption and took a chance with Trump.Why do you say that? If by running a horrible campaign against Biden you mean the s

Even with the Comey announcement I still think she would have won with a better campaign

That is just a personal opinion

No trump showed no empathy during Covid . I think that is what killed him not the performance in his 4 years .

I would say Obama won his elections after that each party blew the election


by lozen

Even with the Comey announcement I still think she would have won with a better campaign

Of course you think that.

by lozen

That is just a personal opinion

Yeah, I get that, but why do you think it's harder for a black person to become president than a woman? Is it because you're more racist than misogynist and ascribe that to the masses?

by lozen

No trump showed no empathy during Covid . I think that is what killed him not the performance in his 4 years .

So you're saying his performance during his last year is what did him in?


by Land O Lakes

Of course you think that.

Yeah, I get that, but why do you think it's harder for a black person to become president than a woman? Is it because you're more racist than misogynist and ascribe that to the masses?

So you're saying his performance during his last year is what did him in?

I have voted for a woman many times and I would have voted for Obama

I think their are more racists than misogynists . Maybe you should accept the fact Hilary ran a bad campaign and Kamala was a horrible candidate

Why is it red states have prominent woman as governors?

Not sure how you think I am racist or misogynist?
Maybe MAGA and Nazi also


by lozen

I have voted for a woman many times and I would have voted for Obama

You would have voted for Obama... if you weren't racist? I don't get what you're trying to say other than you have voted for women but didn't vote for Obama.

by lozen

I think their are more racists than misogynists . Maybe you should accept the fact Hilary ran a bad campaign and Kamala was a horrible candidate

Hillary was crushing Trump in the polls - all of them, but yeah, sure bro, it was because she didn't tour as much as Trump.

by lozen

Why is it red states have prominent woman as governors?

Why have blue states had 50% more female governors than red states? Again, not sure what you're trying to point out.


by Land O Lakes

You would have voted for Obama... if you weren't racist? I don't get what you're trying to say other than you have voted for women but didn't vote for Obama.Hillary was crushing Trump in the polls - all of them, but yeah, sure bro, it was because she didn't tour as much as Trump.Why have blue states had 50% more female governors than red states? Again, not sure what you're try

How the fxxk would I vote for Obama I am CDN

Canadas never had a elected female PM either though my home province very conservative just elected a female and I have voted for both a conservative premier and NDP Premier


by checkraisdraw

That’s a completely different claim than what I made and frankly has nothing to do with my point. If anything we should want merit in those cases. Do you see why?

Walk us thru how you think that case was a win for merit when the larger problem still exists and has for Far longer--with no end in sight. It's just some shuffling of the cards among the minorities within a still very corrupt system.


by lozen

How the fxxk would I vote for Obama I am CDN

Canadas never had a elected female PM either though my home province very conservative just elected a female and I have voted for both a conservative premier and NDP Premier

Oh, my bad. I didn't think an ardent Trump rimjobber would be Canadian.


by lozen

How the fxxk would I vote for Obama I am CDN

Canadas never had a elected female PM either though my home province very conservative just elected a female and I have voted for both a conservative premier and NDP Premier

Canada and its electorate aren’t the same with the US , even on the conservative front.
Thank God …..

So trying to make some kind of link between the treatment of women (and their rights) with the US isn’t a good one.
Just the debate about abortion is a good example .
Which is what I was saying with the UK part as well to elrazor.


by Montrealcorp

Canada and its electorate aren’t the same with the US , even on the conservative front.
Thank God …..

So trying to make some kind of link between the treatment of women (and their rights) with the US isn’t a good one.
Just the debate about abortion is a good example .
Which is what I was saying with the UK part as well to elrazor.

Abortion in Canada is left to each province as it is in the USA now.

Yes woman are treated so badly in the USA compared to Canada . Give me a break . Want to see a country were women are treated different go to the Middle East


by lozen

Abortion in Canada is left to each province as it is in the USA now.

Yes woman are treated so badly in the USA compared to Canada . Give me a break . Want to see a country were women are treated different go to the Middle East

You’re really going for an idiotic “first world problems” angle on this one?

If you live in the first world, all of your problems are first world problems. They’re still problems, lol.


There is a portion of Trump supporters who have this sort of apocalyptic radical view on religion. They’re wrong a lot of where their information from is the corrupted Schofield bible.


https://x.com/fmrrepmattgaetz/status/197...

^The same types of people like Vaughn who believe that if you don’t support Netanyahu, you go against God…..Netanyahu is not God.

Thankfully the likes of Candace Owens, Carlson and so many young conservatives are about patriotism, common sense , and are standing up to nut jobs like Vaughn


Thankfully the likes of Candace Owens, Carlson and so many young conservatives are about patriotism, common sense , and are standing up to nut jobs like Vaughn



by lozen

Abortion in Canada is left to each province as it is in the USA now.

Yes woman are treated so badly in the USA compared to Canada . Give me a break . Want to see a country were women are treated different go to the Middle East

U totally miss the point ….
If it can help u out , take the old Conservative Party in Canada , not the reform party , would they be democrats or republican today in the U.S. ?


by Montrealcorp

U totally miss the point ….
If it can help u out , take the old Conservative Party in Canada , not the reform party , would they be democrats or republican today in the U.S. ?

I would say they would be a form of the old GOP but than I think the current Liberal government is more of a centrist government as well closer to Conservative

Not sure how I missed the point you were talking abortion and I just pointed out the CDN system is the same as the USA new system, Each province has limits based on weeks pregnant and there is no federal involvement as both parties stay out of it

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