Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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Im not advising them on anything. I just know that Israel is lying and will continue to slaughter to children if they accept this plan (or if they dont for that matter). and really, in this case Israel isnt even lying that much as the plan allows for the slaughter to continue if Israel wants it to. and we all know that Israel is addicted to murdering Arabs and stealing their land.


Indications are Hamas will reject the ceasefire that the rest of the world has agreed on.


Interesting that pretty much the only people in the world that dont want the ceasefire deal are western leftists. Even most of the Muslim world is on board.

To the western left, this was never about Palestinian lives. This has always been viewed as a proxy battle in the war against Western Civilization itself, and Palestinians are viewed by western leftists as nothing but disposable pawns for their political ends.


by Dunyain

Interesting that pretty much the only people in the world that dont want the ceasefire deal are western leftists. Even most of the Muslim world is on board. To the western left, this was never about Palestinian lives. This has always been viewed as a proxy battle in the war against Western Civilization itself, and Palestinians are viewed by western leftists as nothing but di

For many of them. Others just subscribe to the oppressor/oppressed narrative so could never be critical of an oppressed group’s resistance (a la Fanon)


by Dunyain

Interesting that pretty much the only people in the world that dont want the ceasefire deal are western leftists. Even most of the Muslim world is on board. To the western left, this was never about Palestinian lives. This has always been viewed as a proxy battle in the war against Western Civilization itself, and Palestinians are viewed by western leftists as nothing but di

Seems to me like the Left are the only ones guarding the flame of Western Civilization, insofar as Western Civilization means civil rights, rule of law, etc. Or, I don't know, what is Western Civilization mean to you? Hotdogs and hamburgers? Let's define the term and then see objectively who embodies it more, people trying to protect innocent people from wanton lethal violence, or people acting like barbarians, killing everyone and taking everything they can for themselves after the dead have fallen.


by Deuces McKracken

Seems to me like the Left are the only ones guarding the flame of Western Civilization, insofar as Western Civilization means civil rights, rule of law, etc. Or, I don't know, what is Western Civilization mean to you? Hotdogs and hamburgers? Let's define the term and then see objectively who embodies it more, people trying to protect innocent people from wanton lethal violence,

Broadly, what makes Western Civilization distinct is the focus on the individual and individual freedoms; including civli rights, rule of law, etc. This is directly juxtaposed to collectivist ideologies like Islam and Marxism.


someone in my small town is doing 9 months for denying the holocaust online. careful guys! reign it in a little bit.
"A North Bay, Ont. man has been sentenced to jail for dozens of social media posts and videos promoting hate and violence against the Jewish community, marking the first-ever conviction in a Canadian court for Holocaust denial, according to Crown prosecutors"


by Deuces McKracken

Seems to me like the Left are the only ones guarding the flame of Western Civilization, insofar as Western Civilization means civil rights, rule of law, etc. Or, I don't know, what is Western Civilization mean to you? Hotdogs and hamburgers? Let's define the term and then see objectively who embodies it more, people trying to protect innocent people from wanton lethal violence,

How is opposing a universally supported cease fire proposal, “trying to protect innocent people from wanton lethal violence”?

Anyone else seeing the problem here?


I gotta hand it to DuecesMcCrack though. He shows up out of nowhere and treats us to a nice comedy show.

All the language about barbarians, civil rights and rule of law. He’s either doing a great comedy bit or he’s just completely uninformed and had his brain addled by online propaganda.

Western leftists are exposing themselves as the dumbest group of humans on the planet. Really giving MAGA a run for their money.


Supporting the radical militant extremist authoritarian regime who spent the better part of 2 decades siphoning all of the incoming aid into their pockets and a futile war effort can’t be the best way to prop up civil rights and rule of law imo.


by Deuces McKracken

Seems to me like the Left are the only ones guarding the flame of Western Civilization, insofar as Western Civilization means civil rights, rule of law, etc. Or, I don't know, what is Western Civilization mean to you? Hotdogs and hamburgers? Let's define the term and then see objectively who embodies it more, people trying to protect innocent people from wanton lethal violence,

the latter is exactly what Western Civilization is. its just mass murder and theft. lots of rape too. Israel is the perfect embodiment of it.


Funny enough, it sounds like Victor is describing large swaths of the non-western world.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

I gotta hand it to DuecesMcCrack though. He shows up out of nowhere and treats us to a nice comedy show. All the language about barbarians, civil rights and rule of law. HeÂ’s either doing a great comedy bit or heÂ’s just completely uninformed and had his brain addled by online propaganda.Western leftists are exposing themselves as the dumbest group of humans on t

I've been posting on this issue in this forum for more than a decade, hardly showing up out of nowhere. I just don't post as much now because most of what I know has now been more widely disseminated and a lot more people know the contours of the conflict and understand the criminality and inhumanity practiced by the fascist state of Israel. They know the Israelis are not semitic, that they are Europeans engaging into Euro style settler colonialism. But we've decided that kind of brutal inuhmanity is not acceptable anymore. It's like how we, at some point, decided rape is wrong. We were just animals going around raping and we discovered it was a wrong and that things were much better with rape outlawed. But there is lawless, bestial Israel, just going around raping up a storm.

I just saw an MSNBC poll saying a majority of Americans are against giving military and economic aid to Israel. I guess it will be that more difficult for AIPAC to own your government. Does that make you sad? You want a foreign country to dominate you like a little bitch? That's gotta be it there is no other explanation for you pro Israel cucks. Are Americans withdrawing support because of what Leftists say? Maybe. The fact that the Leftists are right might have something to do with it. The normies kinda need someone to say "this is bad" when they see pics of children being blown up for no reason other than racial hatred. And you can't exactly weigh in and say "this is good" when doctors say Palestinian children are being sniper shot. You can't say that even though you think it because to say it would expose how utterly depraved you really are and you would lose all credibility.


by Deuces McKracken

I've been posting on this issue in this forum for more than a decade, hardly showing up out of nowhere. I just don't post as much now because most of what I know has now been more widely disseminated and a lot more people know the contours of the conflict and understand the criminality and inhumanity practiced by the fascist state of Israel. They know the Israelis are not semit

That’s crazy you’ve been spewing this racist garbage for a decade. I’m glad I’ve only wasted a relatively small amount of time here.


Wouldn't you rather live in a world where you call my posts garbage while acknowledging, or even just knowing, the posts are anti-racist? What's up with this whole up is down, black is white trend?

If I had a Rodney King moment I wouldn't ask can we just get along. I don't really want to get along with you, tbh, because I think anybody who thinks the things you think are lower than scum. I think anyone who cheers on the mass killing of children is broken beyond any repair. I'd just as soon go to war with everyone like you as look at you. We really don't need to be on the same planet together seeing as you are hellbent on destroying it. No, if I had a Rodney King press conference moment I would instead ask can't we all just agree on a fact base?

For example, was there a pro rape rally in Israel demanding that rapists in the IDF who were on camera raping a Palestinian man be set free? Did this happen or not? Can we agree this happened?


by Deuces McKracken

For example, was there a pro rape rally in Israel demanding that rapists in the IDF who were on camera raping a Palestinian man be set free? Did this happen or not? Can we agree this happened?

It didn't happen.


by DoyleBrunsonFan

That’s crazy you’ve been spewing this racist garbage for a decade. I’m glad I’ve only wasted a relatively small amount of time here.

I think he used to post on other stuff and be more tolerable. In previous incarnations of this forum he wouldn't have lasted very long posting like he is now. But like many, the floodgates of hate have opened and he has revealed his true power level and now pretty much just posts conspiratorial hate about (((Zionists))).


by Dunyain

I think he used to post on other stuff and be more tolerable. In previous incarnations of this forum he wouldn't have lasted very long posting like he is now. But like many, the floodgates of hate have opened and he has revealed his true power level and now pretty much just posts conspiratorial hate about (((Zionists))).

I usually ignore his posts because they are just senseless racist rants.


I dunno guys, if you don't want people to point out that Israelis are doing horrific things then Israelis should stop doing horrific things.

There are no good guys here. Just varying degrees of horrendous.

Shout out to Hamas for throwing all the Palestinians under the rubble. Shout out to Israel for committing war crime level atrocities

I recently went through Deuces posts after he claimed that he doesn't propagandize "the jews", and guess what, he was being truthful


Shout out to Hamas for throwing all the Palestinians under the rubble.

no. Israel literally did this. with American bombs and help.

Shout out to Israel for committing war crime level atrocities

genocide. not war crimes.


Hamas could have surrendered in the face of futility instead they see fit to allow the people they claim to be fighting for to get wiped off the earth


“Israel's DESPERATE Propaganda Push: Paying Influencers $7,000 Per Post”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iscwUjUZAs...

Glenn Greenwald
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One of Tucker’s greatest leads in a long time. And some informative points from the Jewish scholar Jeffrey Sachs on the blatant dishonesty of the Netanyahu administration.

“Blackmail, Bribes, and Fear: Netanyahu Claims He Controls Donald Trump and America. Tucker Responds”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1pDRbwI4R0...

First as some folks are aware there are a small percentage of people who go around claiming Tucker is controlled by Qatar. There is no merit to it and it makes no logical sense. It is a bold faced lie and it’s an easy lie to point out and also the people who say it are very much low class people who often go around claiming to love Donald Trump. Well, Donald Trump gets along greatly with Qatar, so I see some kind of an agent of Qatar … Donald “Qatrump” lols…ah good old fanatical, pro Netanyahu people so so easy to take down. Of course the other propaganda is the false claim of “antisemitism” by proponents of the current Israeli government toward anybody who dares to say wait a minute why the heck is my taxpayer money going to a foreign country that has no effect whatsoever on my life.


Paid pro Netanyahu influencers go around trying to discredit people like Megyn Kelly, who is actually pro Israel. This is how insane and ugly this coordinated effort of Zionist influencers is. And again these are people who will attack Jews who are also Zionist, but who simply disagree with the Netanyahu administration.

“ you’re racist because I say so”

No context, no effort to make a rebuttal. Often just the dumb one liner accusation of bigotry or maybe they’ll even post a GIF.


by coordi

Hamas could have surrendered in the face of futility instead they see fit to allow the people they claim to be fighting for to get wiped off the earth

But that would mean abolishing themselves as an organisation, and organisations generally don't do that. And it would mean giving up their gangland control over Gazans, and gangsters don't do that either -- except at the point of a gun, which Israel has been notably ineffectual in bringing to bear on them, despite the horrifying Germany-1945 'Year Zero' scenes in Gaza that we're all familiar with.

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